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Old 03-27-2006, 05:18 PM   #1
Kagen4o4
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Originally Posted by PizzaMonkey
About the so-called Vigenere code, Vigenere doesn't use numbers, which the codes in TINP have. Vigenere is a set of alphabets, set up by a key word. For example, if the keyword is Knock, a table fo vigenere code would look like this.

-->(nocode) ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
-->(code 1) KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ
-->(code 2) NOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLM
-->(Code 3) OPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMN
-->(Code 4) CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZAB
-->(Code 5) KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJ

You'd then code the phrase like this:
First letter: use the letter corresponding to T in the first alphabet
Second letter: use the letter corresponding to H in the second alphabet...
etc. etc...

Maybe the numbers signify a change to a different alphabet, but then what is the keyword? we need to know that, or else, we can't arrange the alphabets correctly. Or each "alphabet" could actually be alphanumeric.
the fact that the long code of capital letters appears directly above a huge picture of vigenere suggests that we need to use the vigenere method to decode it. we have tried MANY different words for the key and have still been unsuccessful. instead of rearranging the alphabets like above, have you looked for programs that decode the string for you after imputting a key?
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:57 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Kagen4o4
have you looked for programs that decode the string for you after imputting a key?
I was thinking that the gibberish photoshopped into the pictures of the house - like 'kw3x754w3rt - whatever' may be vigenere code, but the format isn't right. And that's a good Idea. Just downloaded VBVigenere. Thank god my school lets me on the internet instead of going to gym.
/lazy bums of america plug

It's also a good thing we have outlook so I can send things to my AOL account at home.

Maybe we could try 'Vigenere' or 'Blaise de Vigenere' as the key?

AND... PAGE 70!!! W00t! w00t! *throws a funky dance par-tay.*

Remind me - I couldn't find the page after reading it - how did you guys solve the code in the Lighthouse and/or candle pic?

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Old 03-28-2006, 10:49 AM   #3
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I was thinking that the gibberish photoshopped into the pictures of the house - like 'kw3x754w3rt - whatever' may be vigenere code, but the format isn't right. And that's a good Idea. Just downloaded VBVigenere. Thank god my school lets me on the internet instead of going to gym.
The gibberish from the window is
Code:
Ml6 8vk8lzxsv7
6l GDJ yl FJ,
turned upside-down and backwards. It decodes to
Code:
Ml6 8vk8lzxsv7 6l GDJ yl FJ,
Not reproaches to 639 by 59.
using the following key and rules:

Code:
ABCDEFGHIJklm.!
zyxwvutsrqpon,?
0123456789

In a given ciphertext:
Characters (letters or puncuation) from the top or middle rows are substitutions for those in the opposite row.
Capital letters represent numbers (A-J == 0-9), unless they're at the beginning of a sentence (such as the M=N in the window text).
Numbers represent the lowercase letter above them.
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Maybe we could try 'Vigenere' or 'Blaise de Vigenere' as the key?
Viggy keywords can't have spaces in them (otherwise that's a good idea). It was one of the first things I tried, but VBV may give a different/better result than the program I've been using.

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I couldn't find the page after reading it - how did you guys solve the code in the Lighthouse and/or candle pic?
The second to last post in page 11 on this thread has a decent explanation; if you need more details PM me.
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Old 03-29-2006, 07:29 AM   #4
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