Immigration

Munchkin · 05-02-2006, 12:25 PM

This is a really tough issue for me. Im having trouble figureing out how I feel about it.

The first thing I think about, is how many americans are without jobs and living in poverty, and that I wish they would have these jobs first. But they you know that most americans wont take these jobs, which then just really pisses me off too. There are way too many people that just sit on their ass collecting a government check and wont take a job that they dont want to do.

I don't think that illegals should be sent to jail as criminals, but I do think they should be deported if they do not have a spouse or children who are american citizens. I understand that life here may be better than it is in mexico...but ya know what? I'd love to immigrate to canada, become a citizen, because Im afraid of what is happening to this country...but they wont let me in. Canada wont let americans in, so why is it so bad if we wont let mexicans in? But then again, its not like I live in a shack now but wouldnt in Canada.

Like I said, this is a difficult issue to judge. But in saying that, I must admit that Im the type of person who says screw foreign aid, lets fix this place first, when there are people dying everywhere. So I guess in the end my opinion will probably be to close down our borders and start fixing our own god damn shit before we try to help everyone else. I have nothing against mexicans... and I understand that theyre trying to make a better life for them and their family, but I do not think we should have an open gates immigration policy, nor do I think that we should legalize the millions of immigrants already inside our borders. And of course, I think it woudl be stupid to put htem in jail, there are already too many people in there. I think we should free all the people who were convicted of any offense having to do with marijuana and see how our criminal justice system thrives then...

Wow.. I went all over the place with that one. Sorry.

MaggieL · 05-02-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin

...most americans wont take these jobs...

Not for the prices an illegal alien will. If that market were eliminated we would find out what the work is actually worth in legal on-the-book dollars.

Until then it's Greshham's Law in action.

Munchkin · 05-02-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

Not for the prices an illegal alien will. If that market were eliminated we would find out what the work is actually worth in legal on-the-book dollars.

Until then it's Greshham's Law in action.

Very true. I heard a woman on the radio saying that her husband is a house painter for a living...and if he ever complains to his boss about his pay his boss just replies " deal with it, if you dont like it Ill just hire two mexicans for half the pay"...

*shrug* .. Of course the rethugs will try to claim that forcing these companies to pay real wages to their employees would destroy their business. But in my opinion, if you cant afford to pay your employees properly, you arent a good business person anyway.

MaggieL · 05-02-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin

Of course the rethugs will try to claim....

If you think the only people exploiting the illegal alien market are Republicans, you should probably think again.

Munchkin · 05-03-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

If you think the only people exploiting the illegal alien market are Republicans, you should probably think again.

Eh of course not, I only referenced the rethugs because of the parties stance on business.

But republicans still suck the most

Shocker · 05-03-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin

But republicans still suck the most

Yeah, they suck on your mom

Munchkin · 05-03-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shocker

Yeah, they suck on your mom

HA! youre funny

05-02-2006, 12:25 PM	#1
Munchkin Colloquialist Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 76	This is a really tough issue for me. Im having trouble figureing out how I feel about it. The first thing I think about, is how many americans are without jobs and living in poverty, and that I wish they would have these jobs first. But they you know that most americans wont take these jobs, which then just really pisses me off too. There are way too many people that just sit on their ass collecting a government check and wont take a job that they dont want to do. I don't think that illegals should be sent to jail as criminals, but I do think they should be deported if they do not have a spouse or children who are american citizens. I understand that life here may be better than it is in mexico...but ya know what? I'd love to immigrate to canada, become a citizen, because Im afraid of what is happening to this country...but they wont let me in. Canada wont let americans in, so why is it so bad if we wont let mexicans in? But then again, its not like I live in a shack now but wouldnt in Canada. Like I said, this is a difficult issue to judge. But in saying that, I must admit that Im the type of person who says screw foreign aid, lets fix this place first, when there are people dying everywhere. So I guess in the end my opinion will probably be to close down our borders and start fixing our own god damn shit before we try to help everyone else. I have nothing against mexicans... and I understand that theyre trying to make a better life for them and their family, but I do not think we should have an open gates immigration policy, nor do I think that we should legalize the millions of immigrants already inside our borders. And of course, I think it woudl be stupid to put htem in jail, there are already too many people in there. I think we should free all the people who were convicted of any offense having to do with marijuana and see how our criminal justice system thrives then... Wow.. I went all over the place with that one. Sorry.

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