Immigration

[billybob]

All those who are howling about the 'illegals' should perhaps have pushed harder on the issue before it became an entrenched phenomenon. If a few more American - born citizens were willing to be treated like shit and paid peanuts, there would not be a labour market that attracted them in the first place. Some of these 'illegals' have been living and working in the US for 20 years or more. Rather than whining about how awful they are, why not kick up a stink about the poor performance of agencies that have let them become embedded into the American economy?

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by billybob

All those who are howling about the 'illegals' should perhaps have pushed harder on the issue before it became an entrenched phenomenon.

So, it's too late...just give up, let it get worse and then bitch about "the government"...because "it's an entrenched phenomenon". We are "the government". It's only "entrenched" because we've left it in the trench. People profiting from exploiting illegal labor get off with a slap on the wrist that they write off as a cost of doing business, and get a wink and a nod from those who say "it's too late, it's entrenched".

It's not "too late", cut off the financial incentives to break the law and watch behavior change.

Are you actually a Kiwi, billybob?

The immigration regulations of New Zealand are strictly controlled and enforced. The New Zealand Government policy permits the granting of permanent residence up to 45,000 persons per year under a range of visa classes, allowing both permanent and temporary residence. However it is estimated that up to twice this number apply for immigration to New Zealand every year. There are a variety of compulsory requirements that each applicant must meet in order to achieve residence in New Zealand which are constantly changing to meet the social and economic needs of the country...

A little bit easier to enforce on islands, to be sure...