Antisocial Personality Disorder

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by marichiko

And if you think physics is all there is to the current dominant paradigm, then stay away from anything to do with biology or medicine and die alone cursing the darkness. We'll toll a bell for you.

Biology and medicine are frameworks that abstract the physics enough to be useful for certain fields of study, but they are physics in the end.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Sure, the matter that we're made of reacts to the laws of physics. So what? That doesn't make us "essentially automatons".
It's a hell of a leap from the body obeying the laws of physics to thought/emotion is "just neuro-chemical phantoms generated by ordinary chemical reactions."

It's rediculous to say,

Whatever makes us tick has to be either #1 a physical process that obeys the laws of physics or #2 a magical spirit from the land of fairies and unicorns. There is no fuzzy middle ground.

Saying anything we don't understand, or have yet to discover, doesn't exist is stupid.
That would make all research a waste of time and money and that has been proven to be false.... repeatedly.

I not ROBOT.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Biology and medicine are frameworks that abstract the physics enough to be useful for certain fields of study, but they are physics in the end.

Please explain to me the speciation of Darwin's finches using only the laws of thermodynamics. Please explain to me the dynamics of grassland ecology in the areas of central and northern Arizona using only quantum mechanics. Please explain to me the work of Louis Pasteur using only the Grand Unified Theory. If you can do these things to my satisfaction and that of every other biologist and ecologist, I may concede your point.

Oh, yeah. Please explain the placebo effect using the law of vectors.

Thank you.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by marichiko

Please explain to me the speciation of Darwin's finches using [physics]. Please explain to me the dynamics of grassland ecology in the areas of central and northern Arizona using only [physics].

Speciation is a result of sexual reproduction, which is a method for the duplication of DNA, which is very complicated chemistry which is the physics of atoms and molecules.

Grassland ecology is the interaction of the fluid dynamics of atmosphere and groundwater, bedrock, and the various forms of life in the area. Fluid dynamics is physics, geology is largely fluid dynamics and chemistry. And each individual form of life follows the biology to chemistry to physics path.

But what are you trying to get me to admit? That explaining ecology at the quantum level is overkill? That it's not useful? That nobody does it? If you look at my quote, you'll see that I already said it:

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
Biology and medicine are frameworks that abstract the physics enough to be useful for certain fields of study, but they are physics in the end.