So, what is the difference.... - Page 2

Rock Steady · 07-17-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

If those who are being targeted have not been proved to be active terrorists already, it is the same.

Those that are targeted have been proven. The others are "colllateral damage". But, those that use human shields are the guilty parties here.

The other difference with the Nazis is sheer numbers, like 12,000,000 innocents verus 140.

Elspode · 07-17-2006, 09:53 PM

It isn't unusual for insugents or guerillas in modern warfare to hide amongst their own people. It makes them harder to find, and then, when you kill a bunch of innocents in the attempt to squish the guerillas, they get to tell everyone what a bunch of monsters you are...then fire their own missles at civilian targets of the other side, claiming that the other guys started it anyway.

07-17-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Steady

Those that are targeted have been proven. The others are "colllateral damage". But, those that use human shields are the guilty parties here.

The other difference with the Nazis is sheer numbers, like 12,000,000 innocents verus 140.

They have been previously tried in a neutral court of law as proof?
Collateral damage? Numbers of dead as a difference? ... no.

Rock Steady · 07-17-2006, 10:03 PM

What Elspode said.

07-17-2006, 10:04 PM

"Hey, Look!... That guys got a green hat on! Shoot a missile at that block"!!!

Rock Steady · 07-17-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

"Hey, Look!... That guys got a green hat on! Shoot a missile at that block"!!!

Bullshit. There is more evidence than that. An international court of law is a fucking joke. France might as well change their flag to all white.

US Citizens deserve a fair trial under the US Constitution.

These international criminals should be shot on sight.

07-17-2006, 10:12 PM

Just like any nation that invades another that was no threat to them killing lots of civilians?

Undertoad · 07-17-2006, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

where is that arguement going? Given that NY and Boston were the major financiers of the IRA (via the coillection tins 'for the cause') are you saying that HMG had every right to bomb NY and Boston?

In war against an enemy with limited resources, you take out the supply routes. Hisballah is using shells and missiles from Syria and Iran, therefore the roads from Syria and and airports from anywhere have been taken out.

07-17-2006, 10:15 PM

That sounds like a "yes".

Undertoad · 07-17-2006, 10:16 PM

Try it another way. Hisballah can stop this whole thing within hours. All they need to do is give the two soldiers back.

Israel can stop this whole thing within hours as well. All they need to do is agree to cease to exist.

Rock Steady · 07-17-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Just like any nation that invades another that was no threat to them killing lots of civilians?

No threat to them?????? You are seriously ignorant. Seriously.

I think the formation of Israel was a serious mistake. But, I can't blame them for defending themselves.

So, if some Indians told you that your house was built on top of a sacred burial ground, would you give your real estate title to them.

I think not.

We Eurpopians stole the land in the New Continent.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-18-2006, 05:13 AM

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We Eurpopians stole the land in the New Continent.

No, the "Eurpopians" actually bought most of the land they settled, from the Indians.
The Americans, stole most of the "New Continent".

Spexxvet · 07-18-2006, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

And that, I guess is the difference between Israel and the Nazi's.....

Israel is less-selective in its death-dealing.

One difference is that Israel drop leaflets in the week leading up to the bombing, telling the Lebanese people in the south to go north and disassociate from Hezbollah, if they wanted to stay safe. They were warned, and could have stayed alive, had they chosen to remove themselves from danger.

MaggieL · 07-19-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

well, if your going to give out clinical diagnoses, why not go the whole doctor hog and cure me? Your comments, please, Dr. L .......

I told you the prognosis was terminal....what part of that didn't you understand? Some things Kant be cured.

MaggieL · 07-19-2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

No, the "Eurpopians" actually bought most of the land they settled, from the Indians.
The Americans, stole most of the "New Continent".

So which was Penn?

07-17-2006, 09:53 PM	#17
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	It isn't unusual for insugents or guerillas in modern warfare to hide amongst their own people. It makes them harder to find, and then, when you kill a bunch of innocents in the attempt to squish the guerillas, they get to tell everyone what a bunch of monsters you are...then fire their own missles at civilian targets of the other side, claiming that the other guys started it anyway. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

07-17-2006, 10:03 PM	#19
Rock Steady Day Tripper Join Date: May 2005 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 784	What Elspode said. __________________

07-17-2006, 10:04 PM	#20
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	"Hey, Look!... That guys got a green hat on! Shoot a missile at that block"!!!

07-17-2006, 10:12 PM	#22
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Just like any nation that invades another that was no threat to them killing lots of civilians?

07-17-2006, 10:15 PM	#24
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	That sounds like a "yes".

07-17-2006, 10:16 PM	#25
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Try it another way. Hisballah can stop this whole thing within hours. All they need to do is give the two soldiers back. Israel can stop this whole thing within hours as well. All they need to do is agree to cease to exist.

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