So, what is the difference....

Griff · 08-03-2006, 03:57 PM

Sorry but that's the way you guys come off.

MaggieL · 08-03-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Sorry but that's the way you guys come off.

"You guys"? Who exactly is that?

Is there no space between "good and have never ever done a morally questionable act" and being morally equivalant to a terrorist who deliberatedly murders civilians? Or is defending oneself (in any way other than will meet the approval of folks who don't particularly give a shit) sufficient to establish this equivalance?

Because I don't buy that theory. It may float in societies where you can be convicted of assault for defending yourself from attack by a burglar in your own home, but we're not required to "lie back and enjoy it" here yet. I'm not Christian enough for the "let him who is without sin" deal.

Griff · 08-03-2006, 04:24 PM

When you and UT defend Israeli and American actions you generally don't acknowlege the downside. That makes your arguments sound less credible. Of course an isolationist like myself finds almost all American actions in the mid east absurd. I don't know why the left has such a problem with militarism after all the Balkan idiocy.

Griff · 08-03-2006, 04:34 PM

Responding to your edit:

"It may float in societies where you can be convicted of assault for defending yourself from attack by a burglar in your own home, but we're not required to "lie back and enjoy it" here yet. "

Weak comparison. When you defend yourself by killing your neighbors along with the burglar, you have a problem. Both sides are killing innocents. Israel accepts that innocents will die when the fire artillery into civilian populations where the crazies hide. Hezbolah does target civilians directly, that is worse intent but Israel kills more civilians, that is worse effect.

PS We are most definitely not in our home.

08-03-2006, 03:57 PM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Sorry but that's the way you guys come off. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-03-2006, 04:24 PM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	When you and UT defend Israeli and American actions you generally don't acknowlege the downside. That makes your arguments sound less credible. Of course an isolationist like myself finds almost all American actions in the mid east absurd. I don't know why the left has such a problem with militarism after all the Balkan idiocy. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-03-2006, 04:34 PM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Responding to your edit: "It may float in societies where you can be convicted of assault for defending yourself from attack by a burglar in your own home, but we're not required to "lie back and enjoy it" here yet. " Weak comparison. When you defend yourself by killing your neighbors along with the burglar, you have a problem. Both sides are killing innocents. Israel accepts that innocents will die when the fire artillery into civilian populations where the crazies hide. Hezbolah does target civilians directly, that is worse intent but Israel kills more civilians, that is worse effect. PS We are most definitely not in our home. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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