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Old 08-20-2006, 06:34 PM   #1
DanaC
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If you just want to see them overrun, be honest enough to say so openly.
I have no desire to see Israel overrun. I do however see Israel as the primary aggressor in that region. I do not believe that Israel should be destroyed. I do however, believe they should cease their illegal occupation of and consistant human rights abuses within Palestine. I also believe that if that were to occur, most of the aggression from other states, sympathetic to the Palestinian cause would die out. Hizb'allah is intrinsically linked to Palestine, they are of the same origin. Whilst it can be argued that Hizb'allah started this particular round of fighting with israel, it`can also be argued that their actions were in direct response to the aggression of Israel in Palestine.

Yes, I see them as an equivalence. No that does not mean I think Israel should be destroyed. Much of what is said relating to the 'total destruction' of Israel is empty rhetoric. Israel is far too powerful and well armed for Hez'bollah to do more than graze their edges. As indeed has been seen in this recent conflict. Meanwhile, Israel has launched such a devastation on the Lebanon that it's hard not to see it in terms of 'collective punishment'.

As I said earlier, weapons are being sent to both sides of this conflict.
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Old 08-20-2006, 06:52 PM   #2
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I have no desire to see Israel overrun. I do however see Israel as the primary aggressor in that region. I do not believe that Israel should be destroyed. I do however, believe they should cease their illegal occupation of and consistant human rights abuses within Palestine.
"Palestine" is another pseudonational entity that has sworn their destruction. Transjordan was supposed to be the original "Palestinian homeland", and now they're back for yet another slice. And another, and another...they won't stop until Israel is gone, they've *said* so repeatedly.

Israel was sucessfully withdrawing from the West Bank and Gaza, but that was intolerable to generations of foreign-funded professional terrorists, who would have nobody left to kill but each other. So it was tunnels, missles and kidnapping, and the "primary agressor, moral equivalance" Greek chorus fires up yet again whenever Israel tried to stop it.

"Primary agressor" is meaningless here, unless you simply mean they are militarily stronger than any one individual identifiable group in the whole "kill the Jews" shell game. But what good is that if their hands are tied from defending themselves?

There's no "human rights abuse" like having a Semtex-n-shrapnel vest go off next to you on the bus or in the pizza shop. How'd you like to have somebody "grazing the edges" of Halifax with random missiles and suicide bombers? If you wouldn't tolerate that, why should Israel?
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