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Radical Centrist
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November 6, 2006: Day of the Dead sculpture
![]() It's not a George Romero film. It's an xoB/WaPo image, showing a temporary sculpture set up in Zocalo Plaza, Mexico City, to celebrate the Day of the Dead, Nov. 1 and 2. I don't know why the Day of the Dead actually spans two days, and all I've ever known about it comes from the quirky computer game Grim Fandango, which the Day apparently inspired. It turns out that in Mexico and a few other places, the macabre Day is a happy celebration - and not at all a scary and sad remembrance - of the dead. Is it coincidence that this freaky Day occurs near the same time as... Halloween, and the Catholic All Saints/All Souls Day, and the Celtic Samhain? After the end of harvest when the first frost has just happened? In any case, we find a reason for celebration; and I think putting up a huge pink skeleton sculpture is a good idea any time. |
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Come on, cat.
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Reminds me of my favorite music video of all time! I wish I could find a copy somewhere (not that I've looked very hard)
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Complex Simpleton
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Grim Fandango was a great game
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When Do I Get Virtual Unreality?
Join Date: Dec 2002
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It is no coincidence that it falls at this time of the year. Its celebration is macabre for much the same reasons as ghouls and monsters being prevalent on Halloween.
In order to remove the fear of something, embrace it and understand it. That's what *I* get out of La Dia del Muerte, anyway.
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Recruit or Something
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Thanks, Jinx
Just took a youtube "trip" down memory lane with the Grateful Dead. Those were the days.
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The future is unwritten
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Welcome to the Cellar, Lurker.
![]() Day of the Dead is also when Mexico's Mayan Indians dig up their kin, that have been buried for three years, clean the bones and put them in wooden crates. Anybody know what they do with the crates?
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Reminded me more of Felini.
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in a mood, not cupcake
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I went to a small celebration this past weekend and found out that Dias de los Muertos is rooted in an Aztec celebration for the goddess of death, and was originally held in the summer! When the Spaniards arrived, the holiday was supressed, but then combined with the Catholic All Saints/Souls day on November 1st and 2nd so it could be celebrated in disguise. So it isn't necessarily specific to that time of year. |
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When Do I Get Virtual Unreality?
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Score another one for the Christian Juggernaut. All Saints Day, and hence All Hallows' Eve the night before, was superimposed on the existing Samhain celebration practiced by the Celts, much the same as Xmas near Yule, Easter at the Vernal Equinox, and Candlemas at Imbolc. What better way to draw the natives into your practices than to co-opt their existing celebrations with your own? The natives of Central and South America just got the same treatment.
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I wonder . . .
Join Date: Oct 2006
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What I've been told is that on El Dia de los Muertos, the dead are celebrated to appease the spirits so they don't come back to do mischief on the living.
Wasn't Halloween, or All Hallows' Eve, a similar idea? To dress up as goulish and scary characters so as to keep the ghosts away? The carved and lit pumpkins were part of that same tradition, of keeping the spirits at bay, weren't they? I don't know anything about Samhain and would love to hear a description! |
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go ahead, abbrev. it
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A lot of these cultures are also heavily into La Danse Macabre. No matter who you are; rich or famous or peon, our earthly being ends up as worm food.
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Samhain was believed to be the time when the "veil" between this world and the next was thinnest, and that the dead could pass through and walk this world again. Depending on how you look at it, ghoulish costumes either honor the dead or help scare them away. Jack-0-Lanterns evolved from the gourds and other root vegetables carved into lanterns to help illuminate dwellings, in hopes of discouraging the spirits from intruding.
It is also believed that communication with the departed is easiest at this time of year for those who choose to do so. Dia del Muerte's custom of feasting on the graves of their ancestors seems to me to combine the notion of communicating with one's departed loved ones and setting a place at the feasting table (a "dumb supper") for them. Simply put, Samhain is a time to remember, to honor and to experience the usually unseen. The Celts held Samhain in conjunction with the third harvest of the year...the harvest of the animals of their herds, often those who were too weak or old to survive the coming of Winter. It is only natural that an association with Death would derive from this. Also, the days grow shorter at this time of the year, and it seems that the Sun is "dying", and the Earth goes fallow and brown. Primitive cultures expressed some very, very complex concepts in very interesting, and ultimately, enlightened ways, from a spiritual perspective, I think.
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lurkin old school
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What Ive seen of Dias de los Muertos (Chicano expressions of it) it celebrates deceased loved ones and reminds the living to value your brief life and honor the family connections -with food, candles, flowers, stories, laughter. Some of the offrendas are amazing.
Here's my favorite place in Texas to get funky skeleton stuff! http://www.tesoros.com/contact.html |
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