Student shot with Taser by UCPD officers - Page 6

wolf · 11-18-2006, 11:42 AM

When I was in school I always carried my student ID. For a long time after, also ... discount movie ticket prices are nothing to sneeze at.

Spexxvet · 11-18-2006, 12:36 PM

I'm not condoning what the cops did. I'm just sayin' that *I* would not have gotten tased because *I* would have left the first time. There's always time later to address the cops. If my project is late, it's because *I* fucked up and didn't have my ID.

Flint · 11-18-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

*I* would have left the first time...

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By this time the student had begun to walk toward the door with his backpack...

So...did they attack him for trying to leave without a student ID ???

Trilby · 11-18-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

So...did they attack him for trying to leave without a student ID ???

Nah. Sometimes you just feel like tasering people coz they're being assholes.

Happy Monkey · 11-18-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

if the public reaction is one of horror and not he-deserved-it finger wagging, then we are truly not in a 1984ish fascist situation.

I'm certainly seeing a bunch of that here, and on other sites that covered this story.

DucksNuts · 11-18-2006, 02:07 PM

Ohh, maybe thats why I dont have a taser!!

I would be randomly tasering people all the time...."dont look at me like that"...ZZZZZZZZ..."dont not look at me like that.....ZZZZZZZZZ

Spexxie? oh yeah, I'd taser him - just for fun.

lookout123 · 11-18-2006, 02:11 PM

uh, what exactly was someone in the crowd supposed to do? you have one asshole looking for trouble. he was approached by two undertrained wanna be cops who were willing to oblige. they didn't take a swing at him. they didn't kick him. they confronted him. he became stupid. they tazed him too quickly, and he continued to create a scene. they didn't make it any better, but they are the on scene authority. you don't mess with them unless they are doing something heinously illegal. record them, file complaints, but don't interfere.

that being said. the cops fucked up. if they felt the need to to taze him, then so be it, but they should have immediately cuffed him and physically removed him. they only made things worse.

and the tazer is a piece of shit. they are made down here, and half the time they don't work. if one of the cables isn't in properly you've got nothing.

Undertoad · 11-18-2006, 04:40 PM

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he deserved it finger-wagging I'm certainly seeing a bunch of that here, and on other sites that covered this story.

Since I wrote that, additional facts have pointed to the guy's role in it. I have posted those facts to the thread.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-18-2006, 04:56 PM

Here's a link to the Daily Bruin, the UCLA newspaper, with some interviews and eyewitness accounts.

The police claim they were using the weapon in cattle prod mode rather than take 'em down mode.

Happy Monkey · 11-18-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Since I wrote that, additional facts have pointed to the guy's role in it. I have posted those facts to the thread.

None that justify the "he deserved it finger-waving." And even if you think they do, the waving began beforehand.

Flint · 11-18-2006, 07:09 PM

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...if the public reaction is one of horror and not he-deserved-it finger wagging, then we are truly not in a 1984ish fascist situation.

That has been the reaction. I haven't tallied up the posts in this thread, but there's been alot of that.

9th Engineer · 11-18-2006, 08:30 PM

Asshole gets shocked by third-rate rent-a-cop, so what. If this was state police or national guard, then I'm horrified.

Flint · 11-18-2006, 08:47 PM

Would it still "feel damn good watching it" ???

9th Engineer · 11-18-2006, 08:49 PM

Substitute that guy, and it would probably still be pleasurable. There are so many asshats like that on campus that I could simultaniously protest the action and feel warm inside.

Flint · 11-18-2006, 10:58 PM

I'm going to assume you're being facetious about enjoying that video, and just leave it at that. Because I just watched it.

11-18-2006, 11:42 AM	#76
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	When I was in school I always carried my student ID. For a long time after, also ... discount movie ticket prices are nothing to sneeze at. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-18-2006, 12:36 PM	#77
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	I'm not condoning what the cops did. I'm just sayin' that I would not have gotten tased because I would have left the first time. There's always time later to address the cops. If my project is late, it's because I fucked up and didn't have my ID. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

11-18-2006, 02:11 PM	#82
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	uh, what exactly was someone in the crowd supposed to do? you have one asshole looking for trouble. he was approached by two undertrained wanna be cops who were willing to oblige. they didn't take a swing at him. they didn't kick him. they confronted him. he became stupid. they tazed him too quickly, and he continued to create a scene. they didn't make it any better, but they are the on scene authority. you don't mess with them unless they are doing something heinously illegal. record them, file complaints, but don't interfere. that being said. the cops fucked up. if they felt the need to to taze him, then so be it, but they should have immediately cuffed him and physically removed him. they only made things worse. and the tazer is a piece of shit. they are made down here, and half the time they don't work. if one of the cables isn't in properly you've got nothing. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin Last edited by lookout123; 11-18-2006 at 02:19 PM.

11-18-2006, 04:56 PM	#84
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Here's a link to the Daily Bruin, the UCLA newspaper, with some interviews and eyewitness accounts. The police claim they were using the weapon in cattle prod mode rather than take 'em down mode. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. Last edited by xoxoxoBruce; 11-18-2006 at 05:00 PM.

11-18-2006, 08:30 PM	#87
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Asshole gets shocked by third-rate rent-a-cop, so what. If this was state police or national guard, then I'm horrified. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

11-18-2006, 02:07 PM	#81
DucksNuts Bitchy Little Brat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,067	Ohh, maybe thats why I dont have a taser!! I would be randomly tasering people all the time...."dont look at me like that"...ZZZZZZZZ..."dont not look at me like that.....ZZZZZZZZZ Spexxie? oh yeah, I'd taser him - just for fun.

11-18-2006, 08:47 PM	#88
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Would it still "feel damn good watching it" ??? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-18-2006, 08:49 PM	#89
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Substitute that guy, and it would probably still be pleasurable. There are so many asshats like that on campus that I could simultaniously protest the action and feel warm inside. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

11-18-2006, 10:58 PM	#90
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I'm going to assume you're being facetious about enjoying that video, and just leave it at that. Because I just watched it. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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