FU*K! - Page 11

BigV · 11-27-2006, 10:42 AM

Don't be sad, zippyt, one out of two ain't bad....

Sundae · 11-27-2006, 11:05 AM

Rhyming slang gives us Septic Tanks for Yanks (only for comedic effect, not maliciously)

I prefer Mary Queens. For the same reason I will sometimes exchange the words recipe and receipt or use prize for present - it amuses me.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-28-2006, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyt

American by birth ,
Southern by the Grace of GOD !!!

You forgot Marine, for life.

JayMcGee · 11-28-2006, 06:21 PM

that, and this,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6193620.stm

is why I deplore Americans.

Aliantha · 11-28-2006, 06:28 PM

British soldiers have never done anything like this before? Or Australian even for that matter?

xoxoxoBruce · 11-28-2006, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayMcGee

mmmmmm.... no quite sure why I'm lumped in with the anti-american brigade... to be sure, I think your foreign policy, for the most part, sucks..... and I 'm not to keen on your general asumption that the american way is the best and only way.....and whilst I'm sure that your cultural output at its best equals the best of Europe, I can only take so many re-runs of the simpsons or Friends.

That said, many of my personal friends are former colonialists.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayMcGee

that, and this,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6193620.stm

is why I deplore Americans.

And you wonder?

JayMcGee · 11-28-2006, 06:45 PM

Pass on the ausies.....

As for the Brits, ever since Bloody Sunday our rules of engagement have been very rigerous. It's a difference in attitude and training.

American armed forces are drilled in the 'protect your buddies' ethos: thus, any perceived is responded to with lethal force. The UK armed forces are proabally more mindful of the risk to civilian and non-combatant casualities due to the the fact that much of their battle experience occurred within the UK.

Aliantha · 11-28-2006, 06:48 PM

Yes but still, there will always be casualties of war. People who're killed in error. Doesn't mean I think it's right or fair. It''s just a fact.

JayMcGee · 11-28-2006, 06:53 PM

Indeed so, Ali. It just seems to me that certain nations in the coalition forces are more prone to error than others.

Aliantha · 11-28-2006, 06:55 PM

Perhaps. But maybe it's just that those nations have more soldiers there so of course the incidence of error is higher.

Aliantha · 11-28-2006, 06:57 PM

The reason I say that is because I think that soldiers the world over have a certain view of the world, and it really doesn't matter which country they're from. There's still a certain base way of going about the job they have to do. Maybe the word I'm looking for is ''gungho" in their attitude.

JayMcGee · 11-28-2006, 07:20 PM

Yes, I think you put your finger on it.

The British Army does all it can to eliminate the 'gungho' attitude.....

and yes, you are also right that the Americans have more troops there, and in the toughest areas.

But still...... levelling a family dwelling with tank rounds because there are snipers on the roof shooting at your armoured tank does seem a tad excessive... perhaps the continual 'pinging' on the armour was giving the brave lads a headache.....

Aliantha · 11-28-2006, 07:23 PM

Maybe, or maybe they simply didn't realize the likely/possible consequences of their actions at the time.

It's important to remember Jay, that what you read isn't always the whole story, or even much of it.

Also, remember again, try not to judge a whole nation by the actions of a few.

JayMcGee · 11-28-2006, 07:35 PM

I think 1 is the most likely.... (it was a multiple choice test, n'est pas?)

as for 2. most of my news comes from the beeb. I surf sky, cnn, reuters and nova, but the thing with the beeb is that they never put out a bulletine unless it's been verified at least three ways. so, they're often late with a story, but you can believe it.

and, yes i do realize (see how I use the zee to connect with my yankee cousins) that the armed forces of the USA are not indicative of the majority of the populace, who are totally untrained in the use of fire-arms but nevertheless demand the right to carry them.

Aliantha · 11-28-2006, 07:53 PM

Do you just like making life hard for yourself Jay?

11-27-2006, 10:42 AM	#151
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Don't be sad, zippyt, one out of two ain't bad.... __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

11-27-2006, 11:05 AM	#152
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Rhyming slang gives us Septic Tanks for Yanks (only for comedic effect, not maliciously) I prefer Mary Queens. For the same reason I will sometimes exchange the words recipe and receipt or use prize for present - it amuses me. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

11-28-2006, 06:21 PM	#154
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	that, and this, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6193620.stm is why I deplore Americans. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

11-28-2006, 06:28 PM	#155
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	British soldiers have never done anything like this before? Or Australian even for that matter? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-28-2006, 06:45 PM	#157
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	Pass on the ausies..... As for the Brits, ever since Bloody Sunday our rules of engagement have been very rigerous. It's a difference in attitude and training. American armed forces are drilled in the 'protect your buddies' ethos: thus, any perceived is responded to with lethal force. The UK armed forces are proabally more mindful of the risk to civilian and non-combatant casualities due to the the fact that much of their battle experience occurred within the UK. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

11-28-2006, 06:48 PM	#158
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Yes but still, there will always be casualties of war. People who're killed in error. Doesn't mean I think it's right or fair. It''s just a fact. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-28-2006, 06:53 PM	#159
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	Indeed so, Ali. It just seems to me that certain nations in the coalition forces are more prone to error than others. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

11-28-2006, 06:55 PM	#160
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Perhaps. But maybe it's just that those nations have more soldiers there so of course the incidence of error is higher. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-28-2006, 06:57 PM	#161
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	The reason I say that is because I think that soldiers the world over have a certain view of the world, and it really doesn't matter which country they're from. There's still a certain base way of going about the job they have to do. Maybe the word I'm looking for is ''gungho" in their attitude. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-28-2006, 07:20 PM	#162
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	Yes, I think you put your finger on it. The British Army does all it can to eliminate the 'gungho' attitude..... and yes, you are also right that the Americans have more troops there, and in the toughest areas. But still...... levelling a family dwelling with tank rounds because there are snipers on the roof shooting at your armoured tank does seem a tad excessive... perhaps the continual 'pinging' on the armour was giving the brave lads a headache..... __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

11-28-2006, 07:23 PM	#163
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Maybe, or maybe they simply didn't realize the likely/possible consequences of their actions at the time. It's important to remember Jay, that what you read isn't always the whole story, or even much of it. Also, remember again, try not to judge a whole nation by the actions of a few. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-28-2006, 07:35 PM	#164
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	I think 1 is the most likely.... (it was a multiple choice test, n'est pas?) as for 2. most of my news comes from the beeb. I surf sky, cnn, reuters and nova, but the thing with the beeb is that they never put out a bulletine unless it's been verified at least three ways. so, they're often late with a story, but you can believe it. and, yes i do realize (see how I use the zee to connect with my yankee cousins) that the armed forces of the USA are not indicative of the majority of the populace, who are totally untrained in the use of fire-arms but nevertheless demand the right to carry them. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

11-28-2006, 07:53 PM	#165
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Do you just like making life hard for yourself Jay? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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