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Careful Consumption Alone Can't Save the World's Fish
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Great article rkz. Thanks for sharing.
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Hi,
Standard and regulated labelling is central to consumers making meaningful ethical decisions. As you say, ethical consumers won't save the world, which is why labels on food are only one element of protecting limited resources. This debate is big in the UK at the moment with regard to carbon labelling in supermarkets. Tesco is planning to label every one of its product lines, while the Environment Ministry is going to develop a common labelling system - http://inbalance.wordpress.com/2007/...eco-labelling/. Dan |
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Hi danlewer, welcome to the Cellar.
![]() Could you give a brief explanation of carbon labeling?
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easy - peasy .....
low carbon - high prices........ sod the world..... I got a family to feed...
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I am most concerned at the deceptive labelling of fish, whether it is making up new names or passing one species of fish off as another.
To end the deception about fish names, I suggest that scientific names of all fish varieties be used in trade. So it doesn't matter if one calls a particular fish as a slimehead or an orange roughy. However, if it is labelled as Hoplostethus atlanticus in commerce and trade, it makes it more difficult to make up new names to disguise an illegal catch. It would be useful to have random spot checks of catch to ensure that the fish being traded as a particular species is really that species. Genetic testing of samples can ensure that the fish is really what it is claimed to be. |
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I'm always careful when I'm eating fish. There's all those bones.
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The obvious difference is that chemicals must be correct or else one could be in big trouble if the wrong chemical is purchased (for example, a big boom followed by a big lawsuit from the survivors), whereas someone buying fish at the market - whether fresh off the boat or at the fishmongers - is likely to say "Meh" and just buy the damn thing anyway. It may be impractical if one is not always able to identify a particular catch of fish down to the species level. But there is a way to circumvent the deceptive names. Just register them as trademarks and sue anyone who uses them. ![]() |
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I doubt you can trademark names that have been in use already. I really don't see how the consumer can have much influence short of boycotting fish entirely. To rely on the fishmongers to keep everything up and up is naive....their kids get hungry too. Lastly, I'm always hesitant to advocate the government get into anything. That said, I'll be damned if I can think of another way to have any effect. I also think it depends on Japan, as they're the major seafood hounds.
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Re: carbon labelling
Sure - the idea is that 'fast moving consumer goods' (which generally means anything that is cheap, you don't take long to decide to buy and is often sold in a supermarket) will have information on the packaging showing how much carbon dioxide (or other greenhouse gases) has been released during production. The thinking behind this is that consumers are prepared to spend more on green products and labelling will allow this preference to be reflected in the market.
Tesco has announced that it is developing its own scheme, and just yesterday DEFRA (the UK's environment department) said it will work to develop a standard system - http://inbalance.wordpress.com/2007/...eco-labelling/ Dan |
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"White tuna" is one of my favorite sushi orders. For years I had no idea what it really is.
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So, uh, I guess you do the laundry at your house.
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I've never eaten enough to have an issue with it, just a couple pieces at a time - but I've been surprised to see Butterfish as entree on some menus.
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Knowing what "butterface" means, I'd hope to avoid a "butterfish" ... (I guess you'd never know until it was too late, though)
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