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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Then how can you be born without human rights? If it is a tangible reality that means you could be born without it, then how can you be born without human rights?

Being a tangible reality does not mean you can be born without them. How can you be born into a planet without gravity? You can't. The same is true of rights. You are born with them and can't be born without them.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

This could be true, but it is a very human self-centered idea that seems to be disproven everywhere in the universe saying that humans aren't anything special in the eyes of the universe.

Disproven? by whom? when did this happen? As far as I know we've had no non-humans do tests in other parts of the universe to see if it exists without humans to perceive it. Do you know a Martian?

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

If you "effect" someone negatively, you violate someone’s rights as a person.

That's entirely false. I can sing a tune that you are displeased with and effected by, but I have not violated your rights by singing it. You do not have the right to not be offended, but I do have the right to express myself freely.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

So when did humans start to have human rights?

The moment the first human was born.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Was there suddenly a time when we had these rights or what?

The natural rights I've described have existed for as gravity has existed.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

How do you know? What makes you think that your version of human rights are the right one?

I don't have a "version" of human rights. Nor do you. Nor does anyone. Human rights are there even if you choose not to recognize them as part of the laws of nature. They exist even if you are prevented from exercising them. All humans have the same rights despite any personal beliefs they may or may not have.

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Once you join a society then you do have rights and I'm sure no one here denies that it is just that without a society you don't have any rights because society invented that concept so people could live peacefully with each other.

Society has not invented anything; individuals have. Rights are not an invention. They are a law of nature and are as real as any law of physics. Without a society you have all rights. With a society you have all rights. Your rights are the same regardless of whether or not you are living around others and regardless of what the laws are in a particular government where you may live.