Do You Own a Gun?

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Radar

Are you saying it isn't? For me owning a gun IS a necessity. In fact my owning of a gun is a necessity even for those who choose not to own a gun themselves. Private gun ownership makes everyone safer, including those who don't own guns.

Yes, I am saying it isn't--for me. And it's fine with me if you think that owning a gun is a necessity for you, as long as you're a responsible gun owner.

I don't agree that private gun ownership makes everyone safer. It only makes others safer if, for instance, a gun owner happens to successfully intervene if non-owners are being threatened. It makes others unsafe if, say, that gun owner's kid or angry spouse happens to shoot bullets through the wall.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Yes, I am saying it isn't--for me. And it's fine with me if you think that owning a gun is a necessity for you, as long as you're a responsible gun owner.

I don't agree that private gun ownership makes everyone safer. It only makes others safer if, for instance, a gun owner happens to successfully intervene if non-owners are being threatened. It makes others unsafe if, say, that gun owner's kid or angry spouse happens to shoot bullets through the wall.

Actually it makes everyone safer, even when gun owners don't intervene. When criminals don't know who has guns or who doesn't it makes them less likely to commit crimes.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Radar

Actually it makes everyone safer, even when gun owners don't intervene. When criminals don't know who has guns or who doesn't it makes them less likely to commit crimes.

Yeah, right.

There might be a few criminals who'd consider that, but I wouldn't bank on it as fact for a reason to own a gun. If it were, there'd be much less crime everywhere.

[xoxoxoBruce]

There is where there are concealed carry laws. That's been proven in every state that has enacted them.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

There is where there are concealed carry laws.

Except Philadelphia, apparently.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Yeah, right.

There might be a few criminals who'd consider that, but I wouldn't bank on it as fact for a reason to own a gun. If it were, there'd be much less crime everywhere.

You are welcome to post a sign on the front of your house indicating your distate for firearms and that you are weapon-free and see how you fare against a non-posted house.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Yeah, right.

There might be a few criminals who'd consider that, but I wouldn't bank on it as fact for a reason to own a gun. If it were, there'd be much less crime everywhere.

Really? Perhaps you can tell me why in 100% of the states that have allowed concealed permits to be obtained by regular people (non-cops) crime has decreased dramatically?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Radar

Really? Perhaps you can tell me why in 100% of the states that have allowed concealed permits to be obtained by regular people (non-cops) crime has decreased dramatically?

Another big fat HA! Stop making sense. You are making way to much sense for this place.

Pass me some ammo...

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Radar

Really? Perhaps you can tell me why in 100% of the states that have allowed concealed permits to be obtained by regular people (non-cops) crime has decreased dramatically?

Does that apply to individual cities as well?