Lawyers...Yuk - Page 2

Happy Monkey · 05-02-2007, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that's not true.

No, it's true.

It is hard, and they'll make it harder in order to discourage you, but you can do it all yourself.

Beestie · 05-02-2007, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

I don't agree that the person spoken about in the opinion column posted has violated any attorney ethical standard.

If the code of ethics that the legal profession holds itself to is silent on this issue then I can't imagine its worth very much.

In criminal law, the sentencing guidelines were designed to have the punishment fit the crime.

In civil law, the punishment is without limitation and generally proportional to how greedy the lawyer is. Even trivial offenses can result in penalties that, to use a phrase lawyers are fond of, shock the conscience.

But apparently, not so shocking as to merit even a token appearance in the legal profession's code of ethics? No wonder the public perception of the legal profession is right up there next to loan sharks. And why shouldn't it be? They'll both shatter your kneecaps over fifty bucks.

Cloud · 05-02-2007, 12:09 PM

well, lawyers are abjured against filing frivolous lawsuits on behalf of their clients, certainly, as is the general public. It's very likely this man had monetary sanctions imposed on him by the court.

Clodfobble · 05-02-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

I don't agree that the person spoken about in the opinion column posted has violated any attorney ethical standard. Stupid, yes--unethical no.

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Originally Posted by Cloud

Sounds like he pissed off the judge, however, which is never a good thing, and he could be subject to sanctions (i.e., a fine) for filing a frivolous suit.

Filing a frivolous lawsuit is very unethical, to me. And if it's gotten to this point and he still hasn't been subjected to severe sanctions already, then I disagree that he's being effectively disciplined. Correct me if I'm wrong, but only the judge handling the case has the right to declare the lawsuit frivolous, right? Or can another lawyer bring a complaint without being directly involved in the case?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-02-2007, 12:59 PM

It goes to court in June. The only court involvement so far is him requesting the expansion of scope, which is when the judge jumped on him for being a dick. But, no sanctions were handed down that I could see.

Beestie · 05-02-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Or can another lawyer bring a complaint without being directly involved in the case?

Stop! Yer killin' me! Guffaw!!

BigV · 05-03-2007, 01:27 PM

Pearls Before Swine

BigV · 05-03-2007, 02:06 PM

I'll Sue Ya
by Al Yankovic

Lyrics:

I sued Taco Bell
'Cause I ate half-a-million Chalupas and I got fat
I sued Panasonic
They never said I shouldn't use their microwave to dry off my cat, huh

I sued Earthlink
'Cause I called 'em up and they had the nerve to put me on hold
I sued Starbucks
'Cause I spilled a frappucino in my lap and brr, it was cold

I sued Toys 'R Us
Cause I swallowed a Nerf ball and nearly choked to death, huh
I sued PetCo
'Cause I ate a bag of kitty litter and now I got bad breath

I sued Coca-Cola, yo
'Cause I put my finger down in a bottle and it got stuck
I sued Delta Airlines
'Cause they sold me a ticket to New Jersey - I went there, and it sucked

Yeah
If you stand me up on a date
If you deliver my pizza thirty seconds late

I'm gonna sue, sue, yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do
I'm gonna sue, sue, yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, yeah, I might even sue you
Ughh

I sued Duracell
They never told me not to shove that double-A right up my nose
I sued Home Depot
'Cause they sold me a hammer which they knew I might drop on my toes

I sued Dell Compueters
'Cause I took a bath with my laptop, now it doesn't work
I sued Fruit Of The Loom
'Cause when I wear my tighty-whities on my head I look like a jerk

I sued Verizon
'Cause I get all depressed every time my cell phone is roaming
I sued Colorado
'Cause you know, I think it looks a little bit too much like Wyoming

I sued Neiman Marcus
'Cause they put up their Christmas decorations way out of season
I sued Ben Affleck
Aww, do I even need a reason?

Uhh
If I sprain my ankle while I'm robbin' your place
If I hurt my knuckles while I punch you in the face

I'm gonna sue, sue, yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do
I'm gonna sue, sue, yes, I'm gonna sue
Sue, sue, that's right, I'm gonna sue you
Ughh, ughh, ughh

I'll sue ya, I'll take all your money
I'll sue ya if you even look at me funny
I'll sue ya, I'll take all your money
I'll sue ya if you even look at me funny
I'll sue ya, I'll take all your money
I'll sue ya if you even look at me funny
I'll sue ya, I'll take all your money
I'll sue ya if you even look at me funny

I'll sue ya, ha-ha ha ha-ha
I'll sue ya, whatchy'all think of that?
I'll sue ya, ha-ha ha ha-ha
Booya
I'll sue ya
Ughh

Beestie · 05-03-2007, 02:35 PM

The Post editorial staff weighs in on the case.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-03-2007, 03:35 PM

That's good news, this asshat should be canned, disbarred and defrocked.

Trilby · 05-03-2007, 03:41 PM

i hope he's disbarred. Him and that crazy guy who wanted to tar, feather and hang those Duke la crosse players.

I've dealt with lawyers four times. Didn't matter if they were representing me or prosecuting me, they all sucked. Law is just a foreign language designed to keep normal people confused. It's a lot like medicine.

bluecuracao · 05-03-2007, 10:25 PM

Some lawyers are good. I have a friend who works for the SEC--he's helped bring down some corporate bad guys.

05-04-2007, 12:19 AM

Most of the lawyers I know are decent people. I've worked with a LOT.
The head lawyer from NM that BushCo. fired for being honest, and his eight friends are prime examples.
Don't like lawyers don't use em', very simple.
I was a very honest insurance agent, most that I knew were, for some companies. Many company's policies are not, but most people don't want honest insurance agents, then bitch because they don't have enough insurance when the get into an accident. Can't have it both ways.
Same with lawyers. They want a bull shark working for them, but want everyone else to have an honest John.
Can't have it both ways.
Don't want cheaters in the world, don't ever cheat, if you do, don' bitch.
Don't want bad lawyers, don't sue when you slip on a spill you should have seen because you need to be looking where you are going, try to get more than your car's worth from your insurance company after an accident or try to take the guy that hit your car for all he's got.
When everyone who discusses this does not and will never try any of these things... then we can talk about lawyers.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-04-2007, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Don't want bad lawyers, don't sue when you slip on a spill you should have seen because you need to be looking where you are going, try to get more than your car's worth from your insurance company after an accident or try to take the guy that hit your car for all he's got.
When everyone who discusses this does not and will never try any of these things... then we can talk about lawyers.

Then I can talk lawyers. I've had lawyers harass me, not for clients but for personal gain in one case and personal satisfaction (meanness) in a couple others. They didn't get it, but it was a huge pain in the ass.

Beestie · 05-04-2007, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Most of the lawyers I know are decent people.
The head lawyer from NM that BushCo. fired for being honest, and his eight friends are prime examples.

Prime examples of what? You know these 8 lawyers and you can personally vouch for them? And because you know a LOT of lawyers (how many - 20? 30? 50?) then you extrapolate that ALL lawyers are no different from the lawyers that you know even tho Bruce, for example, who also knows a LOT of lawyers has the exact opposite experience with lawyers as you.

But I will take your advice.

When I have built a career legally extorting millions of dollars money from people not because its the right thing to do but simply because I get to line my pockets with money I didn't earn and that the good lawyers with whom you are so well acquainted are content to sit back and let me get away with it then I'll remember what you said and say... "yeah, I guess I shouldn't bitch since I'm one of them."

But I'm not one of them.

05-02-2007, 12:09 PM	#18
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	well, lawyers are abjured against filing frivolous lawsuits on behalf of their clients, certainly, as is the general public. It's very likely this man had monetary sanctions imposed on him by the court. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

05-02-2007, 12:59 PM	#20
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It goes to court in June. The only court involvement so far is him requesting the expansion of scope, which is when the judge jumped on him for being a dick. But, no sanctions were handed down that I could see. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-03-2007, 01:27 PM	#22
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Pearls Before Swine Attached Images __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

05-03-2007, 02:06 PM	#23
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I'll Sue Ya by Al Yankovic Lyrics: I sued Taco Bell 'Cause I ate half-a-million Chalupas and I got fat I sued Panasonic They never said I shouldn't use their microwave to dry off my cat, huh I sued Earthlink 'Cause I called 'em up and they had the nerve to put me on hold I sued Starbucks 'Cause I spilled a frappucino in my lap and brr, it was cold I sued Toys 'R Us Cause I swallowed a Nerf ball and nearly choked to death, huh I sued PetCo 'Cause I ate a bag of kitty litter and now I got bad breath I sued Coca-Cola, yo 'Cause I put my finger down in a bottle and it got stuck I sued Delta Airlines 'Cause they sold me a ticket to New Jersey - I went there, and it sucked Yeah If you stand me up on a date If you deliver my pizza thirty seconds late I'm gonna sue, sue, yes, I'm gonna sue Sue, sue, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna sue, sue, yes, I'm gonna sue Sue, sue, yeah, I might even sue you Ughh I sued Duracell They never told me not to shove that double-A right up my nose I sued Home Depot 'Cause they sold me a hammer which they knew I might drop on my toes I sued Dell Compueters 'Cause I took a bath with my laptop, now it doesn't work I sued Fruit Of The Loom 'Cause when I wear my tighty-whities on my head I look like a jerk I sued Verizon 'Cause I get all depressed every time my cell phone is roaming I sued Colorado 'Cause you know, I think it looks a little bit too much like Wyoming I sued Neiman Marcus 'Cause they put up their Christmas decorations way out of season I sued Ben Affleck Aww, do I even need a reason? Uhh If I sprain my ankle while I'm robbin' your place If I hurt my knuckles while I punch you in the face I'm gonna sue, sue, yes, I'm gonna sue Sue, sue, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna sue, sue, yes, I'm gonna sue Sue, sue, that's right, I'm gonna sue you Ughh, ughh, ughh I'll sue ya, I'll take all your money I'll sue ya if you even look at me funny I'll sue ya, I'll take all your money I'll sue ya if you even look at me funny I'll sue ya, I'll take all your money I'll sue ya if you even look at me funny I'll sue ya, I'll take all your money I'll sue ya if you even look at me funny I'll sue ya, ha-ha ha ha-ha I'll sue ya, whatchy'all think of that? I'll sue ya, ha-ha ha ha-ha Booya I'll sue ya Ughh __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

05-03-2007, 02:35 PM	#24
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	The Post editorial staff weighs in on the case. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

05-03-2007, 03:35 PM	#25
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's good news, this asshat should be canned, disbarred and defrocked. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-03-2007, 03:41 PM	#26
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	i hope he's disbarred. Him and that crazy guy who wanted to tar, feather and hang those Duke la crosse players. I've dealt with lawyers four times. Didn't matter if they were representing me or prosecuting me, they all sucked. Law is just a foreign language designed to keep normal people confused. It's a lot like medicine. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

05-03-2007, 10:25 PM	#27
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	Some lawyers are good. I have a friend who works for the SEC--he's helped bring down some corporate bad guys.

05-04-2007, 12:19 AM	#28
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Most of the lawyers I know are decent people. I've worked with a LOT. The head lawyer from NM that BushCo. fired for being honest, and his eight friends are prime examples. Don't like lawyers don't use em', very simple. I was a very honest insurance agent, most that I knew were, for some companies. Many company's policies are not, but most people don't want honest insurance agents, then bitch because they don't have enough insurance when the get into an accident. Can't have it both ways. Same with lawyers. They want a bull shark working for them, but want everyone else to have an honest John. Can't have it both ways. Don't want cheaters in the world, don't ever cheat, if you do, don' bitch. Don't want bad lawyers, don't sue when you slip on a spill you should have seen because you need to be looking where you are going, try to get more than your car's worth from your insurance company after an accident or try to take the guy that hit your car for all he's got. When everyone who discusses this does not and will *never* try any of these things... then we can talk about lawyers.

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