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In Ford Motor, when an MBA did not understand how the work gets done, then he hires subordinates. To become productive again (after we kicked out Henry Ford by not buying his products), Ford Motor cut their management from 48 layers down to five.
"Mission Accomplished" from the Sec of Defense and Joint Chiefs is then run by Central Command and then commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan. Today, George Jr added more management layers. From ABC News of 15 May 2007: Quote:
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Those who use a political agenda to proclaim support for the troops - they must deny reality. One will even claim he never associated 11 September with "Mission Accomplished" even after those above quotes are his. But then Urbane Guerrilla represents those who have so much contempt for the American soldier - and the world. No strategic objective. More layers of bureaucracy. This man still has another 1.5 years to screw up America. Notice how much he did only in the first 1.5 years. He can still do much damage so as to protect his legacy at the expense of all citizens in the world. How many hundred thousand death Iraqis are on his hands? Meanwhile TheMercenary now posts this is good because so few died. |
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His legacy as the worst president ever? Not much need to protect that, he's in no danger of losing it.
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still says videotape
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I'm excited aren't you?
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Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
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Thank goodness Griff is going to be president...there isn't much in the way of other decent choices.
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still says videotape
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Apparently we are in even worse shape than I thought.
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Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
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You already have my vote, and Spexxvet's...that's two!
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From The NY Times of 28 May 2007:
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American ignorance and stupidity are not limited to replacing containment with pre-emption. It exists in virtually all parts of American government agendas. From the NY Times of 31 May 2007:
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George Jr terminated the anti-ballistic missile treaty unilaterally. He is attempting to do same to the nuclear test ban treaty and the non-proliferation treaty. He destroyed an agreement that would have brought N Korea into the world. He destroyed relations with Syria, What could be better than all this? Restart the Cold War. But then wacko extremists are so suspicious that Condi Rice even mistakenly called them the USSR in a public statement. Putin has every reason to fear a US incompetence to restart the Cold War. The only nation that keeps the US from unilaterally releasing (Pearl Harboring) a nuclear war is Russia. Would Cheney think twice before ordering a pre-emtive nuclear attack. Obviously not. |
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Well yeah, but they are consistant... that should count for something.
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You know how you read about the outbreak of WWI and it just doesn't make much sense... I'm starting to get that ole "leaders just like conflict" feeling.
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From the NY Times of 22 Jun 2007:
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Clearly only Cheney can be trusted. How many more Cheney subordinates will be found guilty of corruption? Or not if even e-mails are destroyed in violation of Federal law and without prosecution. This is a right wing wacko in power. Laws don't apply to him. Last time we had leaders with this much contempt for the law and for American principles - the president was the crook Nixon. His VP? A convicted crook named Spiro Agnew. 30 years later - Deja vue. Last edited by tw; 06-21-2007 at 10:58 PM. |
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An accurate source of reality has been PBS Frontline. An hour long news documentary on various subjects. Frontline has been particularly accurate on "Mission Accomplished" with their reports entitled Rumsfeld's War, The Torture Question, The Dark Side, and especially the blatant examples that violate even basic military science 101 principles The Lost Year in Iraq .
So how do we terminate a defeat called "Mission Accomplished"? The Iraq Study Group provided clear and stunningly comprehensive solution to minimize that defeat. But that defeat would be on George Jr's legacy. Frontline details and organizes current events that may result in a fourth campaign defeat - EndGame For example, obvious was an American defeat in Fallujah. Not the battle. Tactically, Second Fallujah was a victory. But strategically, Fallujah was a defeat; especially First Fallujah. Marines lost that one twice for no fault of their own. First when Marines were ordered to solve a crime problem faster with a full out military assault. Second when the same Washington micromanagers became appalled at what they had created and ordered the Marines to withdrawal. Iraqis then realized Americans could be defeated; inspiring growth of an insurgency fueled by widespread Iraqi dislike of an American occupation. Not obviously stated in that report: at no time do even major strategists ask something so simple: "What do the Iraqis want?" Therein lays the question necessary for a strategic objective. Without those answers, then Americans could easily remain in Iraq for another decade - just like Nam. Presented in Frontline's EndGame is the same scenario that lost Nam. Battles can be won but a war be lost. Each Frontline reports is must viewing for those who learn history from current events. How badly is "Mission Accomplished" being lost? Most do not realize how bad even Fallujah was. Contempt for the Marines in Washington was appalling. A tactical victory such as Second Fallujah was, in reality, a strategic defeat. Appreciate why a once peaceful Diaylah province is now in civil war. Learn from EndGame why both Nam and “Mission Accomplished” are defeats – even when soldiers win each battle. Appreciate why 85% of all problems are directly traceable to a mental midget. Last edited by tw; 06-21-2007 at 10:56 PM. |
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See what pretty jewelry Daughter No. 1 makes?
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