Global Warmists back off on prediction

The Eschaton · 05-31-2007, 10:00 AM

Thanks HLJ good post, good point. i had not thought of that.

HungLikeJesus · 05-31-2007, 10:09 AM

Just to emphasize what you have all said before:

Without conservation and energy efficiency all is lost.

The Eschaton · 05-31-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HLJ

Just to emphasize what you have all said before:

Without conservation and energy efficiency all is lost.

which brings us to the point of those that oppose taking action against global warming. They seem opposed to it because they think its all a plot by those socialist communist bastards to impose heavy handed government control on us. (said ironically tounge in cheek) But im realizing they are right. I had just thought it would take some good pushes in alternate energy technologies and we would be home free, but thats wrong. it is going to take some heavy handed government action and some new enforced conservation rules. its going to take mandating higher efficiency standards. And now this makes me worried. I think its the one thing americans wont take. We would take our suvs to hell with us. The people will not allow the government to take conservation measures that might impact there lifestyle in the slightest. I think we are lost

xoxoxoBruce · 05-31-2007, 10:24 AM

It sounds like a good plan, but when you figure a turbine is about $1000 per kilowatt to buy, the losses in the electrolysis creation of hydrogen, the 'bottling plant', the infrastructure to make this all work, it won't be cheap.

Now consider the pressure Al Gore is putting(indirectly) on the plants that produce half our electricity. The cost of transmission lines is peanuts compared to finding alternative power generation sources that will pass pollution muster.

I can see, when sufficient wind power is available, using excess(off peak) capability for other things like hydrogen production. Unless, of course, battery technology have increased to the point of making it a more viable method of storing that power.

Notice: if politicians have there way all bets are off.

05-31-2007, 10:00 AM	#1
The Eschaton Vivacious Vivisectionist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Future Posts: 36	Thanks HLJ good post, good point. i had not thought of that. __________________ "All i say is by way of discourse, and nothing by way of advice. I should not speak so boldly if it were my due to be believed." - Montaigne

05-31-2007, 10:09 AM	#2
HungLikeJesus Only looks like a disaster tourist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: above 7,000 feet Posts: 7,208	Just to emphasize what you have all said before: Without conservation and energy efficiency all is lost. __________________ Keep Your Bodies Off My Lawn SteveDallas's Random Thread Picker.

05-31-2007, 10:24 AM	#4
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It sounds like a good plan, but when you figure a turbine is about $1000 per kilowatt to buy, the losses in the electrolysis creation of hydrogen, the 'bottling plant', the infrastructure to make this all work, it won't be cheap. Now consider the pressure Al Gore is putting(indirectly) on the plants that produce half our electricity. The cost of transmission lines is peanuts compared to finding alternative power generation sources that will pass pollution muster. I can see, when sufficient wind power is available, using excess(off peak) capability for other things like hydrogen production. Unless, of course, battery technology have increased to the point of making it a more viable method of storing that power. Notice: if politicians have there way all bets are off. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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