Ron Paul announces

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

He didn't say anyone was stupid. You're the only one using that word. You're blasting him for what you think he said, which is not what he actually said.
He said, "sensible political opinions" and in reality, I doubt you'd find 5% that would support elimination of welfare and affirmative action.
He's probably remarked about how other demographics feel about his position, but of course this article has only cherry picked quotes to build their case.

You don't have to say something to imply it. Saying only 5% of blacks have sensible positions is implying that they have insensible positions, which is negative and leads to stupidity. Free market, end of welfare, ect, are not sensible or insensible positions, they are opinions. Many blacks will support welfare, etc because it helps them, not because it is the best for Ron Paul.

The Justice Department's crime stats say you're wrong. I linked to them in the discussion about no black women were raped by white men.

That only 10-20% has committed violent crimes as rape, murder, etc? And when did this have to do with black women and white men? Ron Paul said we should be scared of black people because they are disproportionably violent compared to whites. You still can't label the black population as a whole because of some criminals. Just like you can't say we should be scared of Muslims because some are committing terrorist attacks or think all whites are greedy because of white-collared crime.

Once again you're criticizing what he didn't say. He said, "black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs". As Clodfobble pointed out that could also apply to other races and probably the Hispanics in that situation outnumber the Blacks now. Insensitive, not PC, perhaps... but that doesn't make him racist.

Yes, then why just say blacks?

I'm betting you have yet to confront one of these little bastards... believe me, they are scary.

They seem scarier than whites or Hispanics of the same size, intentions, etc because of the stereotypes about them. And once again, you have to be careful not to label the whole black population of what a minority does or look like.

But not to worry... which knocks him out of contention.

I would rather have Paul as president then any of the other Republican candidates...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

You don't have to say something to imply it. Saying only 5% of blacks have sensible positions is implying that they have insensible positions, which is negative and leads to stupidity. Free market, end of welfare, ect, are not sensible or insensible positions, they are opinions. Many blacks will support welfare, etc because it helps them, not because it is the best for Ron Paul.

If you say he 'implied' then you're saying that's what you heard. That doesn't make it what he said or intended.
More than opinion, position. A position is an opinion that you promote, work to achieve, your philosophy. He certainly believes that people who disagree aren't sensible on these issues, but that in no way construes he feels they're stupid... just wrong.

That only 10-20% has committed violent crimes as rape, murder, etc? And when did this have to do with black women and white men? Ron Paul said we should be scared of black people because they are disproportionably violent compared to whites. You still can't label the black population as a whole because of some criminals. Just like you can't say we should be scared of Muslims because some are committing terrorist attacks or think all whites are greedy because of white-collared crime.

Nothing to do with black women/white men, I said that's the thread where I linked to the Justice Departments crime stats, if you want to look at them.
Disproportionate, likely because there is a disproportionate number in poverty, but it's still true. Don't bother with that seat belt, only a few cars crash.

Yes, then why just say blacks?

I don't know. None of us do.

They seem scarier than whites or Hispanics of the same size, intentions, etc because of the stereotypes about them. And once again, you have to be careful not to label the whole black population of what a minority does or look like.

I don't think they look any scarier than others in the same position, they're all scary in those circumstances. Nothing to do, nothing to loose, resigned to going to jail eventually and sure they will live forever.

I would rather have Paul as president then any of the other Republican candidates...

Your privilege, but I think he's shot himself in the foot with that one.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

If you say he 'implied' then you're saying that's what you heard. That doesn't make it what he said or intended.
More than opinion, position. A position is an opinion that you promote, work to achieve, your philosophy. He certainly believes that people who disagree aren't sensible on these issues, but that in no way construes he feels they're stupid... just wrong.

I never wanted to get into what I am going to say but it is pretty much inevitable since it is politics but Paul will never say outright that he is a racist but can only hint at it. You can not prove hints. You can only guess that he is racist by the hints he gives you, and by his pointing out blacks in particular, it is giving out pretty strong hints that he may be a racist. But this all determines on what people consider racism too.

Disproportionate, likely because there is a disproportionate number in poverty, but it's still true. Don't bother with that seat belt, only a few cars crash.

There is a difference to be scared of all black people and avoiding situations that could get you in trouble. Being scared of all black people is irrational because it involves flawed logic. Paul either did a really bad job at explaining what he meant or he gave more hints.

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