Bush hits a new low

[warch]

Fitzgerald is investigating a tangled executive-level conspiracy, of which Libby is the first conviction. Beyond Armitage, who admitted his role when asked, Rove and Libby coordinated this leak to the press, too, even if they couldn't seem to recall it. This investigation has uncovered as many questions as it has answered. Does it matter? I think so.

Can a president commute or pardon those felons that may be directly protecting him from a criminal charge via obstruction? If so, then the workings of the office of the president are at the pleasure of the president, above the rule of law? That's sounds like a constitutional question.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by warch

Can a president commute or pardon those felons that may be directly protecting him from a criminal charge via obstruction? If so, then the workings of the office of the president are at the pleasure of the president, above the rule of law? That's sounds like a constitutional question.

Do you believe the question will really be answered? I sort of doubt it. Except for the political grandstanding that will occur on the run up to the next Presidential election the motivation is suspect. I don't see anyone going to prison for anything because Bush will pardon them. As much as the radical liberal left would like to see it, Bush will not be impeached either, for what ever reason someone dreams up. This will become nothing more than a study of political history in the future.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

As much as the radical liberal left would like to see it, Bush will not be impeached either,

As much as the informed moderates - the political independents - want it, Congress does not have the balls to do what this nation desperately needs - Cheney impeached. It was never about the radical left. It was about extremists with a political agenda verse moderates - where intelligence resides.

This is not George Jr's presidency. That has been obvious to the better informed for years. But a political agenda must deny the obvious. Even Secretary of Treasury Paul O'Neill's 2003 book made it obvious that George Jr did not make decisions - did not even read his own memos. George Jr does not read his memos. Only today are most Americans beginning to acknowledge that reality.

Cheney is the source of government corruption. He was always that dictatorial extremist as even people in George Sr's administration knew or are now just beginning to realize.

Corruption was so intended in advance that Cheney routinely had all records destroyed. Even Google Earth cannot show the Naval Observatory - where Cheney lives. We might learn some truth such as whose car is parked in the driveway. Cheney's agenda is so maniacal that we cannot even be trusted to know that.

This presidential immigration reform bill is completely contrary to Cheney's wish. When George Jr makes some decision on his own, then Cheney lets the mental midget just hang. He did exact same thing when George Jr choose Harriet Miers rather than anyone from Cheney's list. Cheney keeps George Jr in line with those techniques. George Jr never accomplishes anything without Cheney's approval. Cheney tells George Jr what he will do. Cheney is where impeachment is desperately needed. He is not an honest man. But he is a smart manipulator. Rumsfeld was once his boss.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

Cheney.......George Jr.......George Jr ............George Jr..............Cheney ........George Sr..........Cheney.......Cheney........Cheney.....Cheney.......George Jr .........Cheney......... George Jr........Cheney...........Cheney......George Jr....... George Jr......... Cheney.........Cheney........George Jr.............. Cheney.........Rumsfeld....... And a box of chocolates.

What did you just say, was that important?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

As much as the radical liberal left would like to see it, Bush will not be impeached either, for what ever reason someone dreams up.

Radical?

As of 7/5/07 American Research Group found....

45-46% of adults want to start the impeachment process against Bush.

50-54% of adults want to start the impeachment process against Cheney.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/


I was too young to really know the details and numbers with Clinton but why aren't these numbers known when I'm sure everyone knew about Clinton's?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Radical?

As of 7/5/07 American Research Group found....

45-46% of adults want to start the impeachment process against Bush.

50-54% of adults want to start the impeachment process against Cheney.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/


I was too young to really know the details and numbers with Clinton but why aren't these numbers known when I'm sure everyone knew about Clinton's?

Point is, it ain't happing.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Point is, it ain't happing.

No one thinks its just going to happen, I am just saying that more than just "radical" leftists want Bush and Cheney impeached. Unless you think that 50% of the US population (or at least the survey population) are radicals...

What did you just say, was that important?

Your last four posts have been the same thing, it is getting really old.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

No one thinks its just going to happen, I am just saying that more than just "radical" leftists want Bush and Cheney impeached. Unless you think that 50% of the US population (or at least the survey population) are radicals...

There in lies the problem. Survey populations are not forms of accurate statistical information. I saw a great one the other day on a forum people were fawning over on another forum. It was done by a well known company for MSNBC. The topic was that the majority of Americans want to impeach Bush. And then it was quite obvious no one had drilled down to find the original data. Once I found it this was the sample size: 1000 people via a telephone survey on 2 days. So basically MSNBC went with a head line that claimed that the majority of Americans want Bush impeached. Well please tell me how you accurately extrapolate a sample size of people who have telephones, and were home on the two days of the telephone survey, and who did not hang up on the callers conducting the poll, to a population size of MILLIONS??? Can't do it. The math does not add up. Any idiot with a mediocre understanding of Stats 101 understands that that is a HUGE jump. And the beat goes on.... and more polls are conducted... and everyone gets excited because it supports what they want to believe.... and it is mostly BS.

Your last four posts have been the same thing, it is getting really old.

I will choose how to respond to that nut. You choose how you will respond. Stay out of it.