Men Abortion and Choice

Originally Posted by lumberjim

rage, you're all fucked up here.

i'm slightly disgusted by your willful disregard of a woman's rights. does it really need to be laid out as literally as stormie does in her post for you to get it?

you sir, should be ashamed of yourself for taking the stance you've taken.

As I am for yours for the man's, same thing, big deal.

[lumberjim]

oh..the man's rights....took me a sec.

shut up.

i thought you were libertarian? your rights end at the limits of your body. If you dont want a woman killing your babies, keep your goo to yourself, or marry her and be sure she wants to procreate first, genius.

[piercehawkeye45]

Rage, men and women have naturally unequal stances on abortion since the woman actually has to give birth.

They are not equal and you can not pretend that they are. Abortion is a lose-lose situation and everyone is just picking the lesser of two evils.

shut up.

No. So eloquent, as always.
I did marry her.
Your advice is great for men and women, I applaud you for it.

Pierce, men and women are not equal? Well... um... you go ahead and stick with that.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

No. So eloquent, as always.

you get the eloquence your stunted ass deserves. here's some more eloquence for ya:

EAT



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DICK

Homophobia... it just gets better and better.

[Flint]

Homophobia? Huh?

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Pierce, men and women are not equal? Well... um... you go ahead and stick with that.

Ah the irony that you take me out of context for me being sexist when you support a patriarchal position.

A woman has to give birth and a man doesn't, that is fact and it doesn't make a certain gender any better than the other. Since the woman has to give birth she gets to have the final say, not the man. Trying to evening out the playing field to be fair to the man is everything you stand against since you have said you don't believe in fair. Like LJ said, if you don't want a woman to have an abortion with a baby that you helped create, don't impregnate her.

Funny, I see my opinion as equality and your's as matriarchal.

to have an abortion with a baby that you helped create, don't impregnate her.

Don't wanna' have a baby, don't get pregnant.

[lumberjim]

or abort it as soon as you know about it.



dont want to get pregnant? dont have sex?


dont want to get pregnant, dont have a uterus?

dont want to be subservient, dont be a woman?

dont want people to call you names, dont be an asshole.

You must love for people to call you names. Fetish of yours?

[lumberjim]

i just wanted to turn this ridiculous thread about assholery into what it should be. assholery.

now go piss up a rope with your silly positions and posturing about equality. it really is a waste of logic to argue this with you any further. you'll get nothing more from me than insults and ridicule.

you .......big....... bald .......sperm donor.

LOL!!!

[DanaC]

or abort it as soon as you know about it.



dont want to get pregnant? dont have sex?


dont want to get pregnant, dont have a uterus?

dont want to be subservient, dont be a woman?

dont want people to call you names, dont be an asshole.

*Applauds* outstanding.

[DanaC]

Good thing no one is talking about outlawing abortion

Nope, the law would make the man stop an abortion if he wished to take full responsibility for his child.

rk, honey, I lova ya, but that's fucked up. You would seriously want a law that gives a man the right to dictate to a woman whether or not she was able to have an abortion?


From the original article on the proposed law change :

As written, the bill would ban women from seeking an abortion without written consent from the father of the fetus. In cases where the identity of the father is unknown, women would be required to submit a list of possible fathers. The physician would be forced to conduct a paternity test from the provided list and then seek paternal permission to abort.

Well, fuck me sideways if I didn't tripover and land in the Handmaid's Tale. Rk, next time you call European laws on racism fascistic in nature I'm just going to laugh in your face, because this beats any Holocaust Denial laws into the ground, for me. How can you so vehemently defend the rights of people to spout racist filth and yet not seek to defend a woman's right to have the final say over her own body? And if you want to point at Fascist German and say, well hey they limited freedom of speech, I can point you to the German Maids whose job was to bear blond haired, blue eyed, master-race babies. And I can point you to the pregnant women whom the nazis experimented on.