Off duty police killed by invader - Page 2

BigV · 08-30-2007, 11:23 AM

Flint has his own police force?

Holy crap!

9th Engineer · 08-30-2007, 03:15 PM

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Hit-and-run posting? Same topic over and over and over? Intentional inflammatoriness?

Does that mean RK is now a troll? 2/3 ain't bad:p

minnmirman · 08-30-2007, 04:00 PM

I dont see why that wouldnt be agreeable to everyone. I have no problem with immigration, but I was pretty pissed when my truck was hit by someone who was here illegally and my rates went way up when my company had to pay for it (some time ago). I realize that it seems conceited to worry about my insurance rates when that person would end up being deported, but it's a small example of a big problem.

Maybe Mexico should start doing something that would make their people not want to run north

xoxoxoBruce · 08-30-2007, 04:56 PM

If you were a Mexican outlaw, and the police were looking for you, where would you go?
That's why we're getting so many criminals sneaking in, along with the people just looking for work. But if you say, it's a bad law so ignore it, that's what happens.

tw · 08-30-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by minnmirman

Maybe Mexico should start doing something that would make their people not want to run north

Mexico does not create the problem. Problem is created by the same people who caused the first ever failed international trade conference. The Doha Round completely collapsed. The entire world walked out of Cancun three days early do to two nations who so demonstrated contempt for free trade - United States and France.

US provides corporate welfare to cotton, soybeans, corn, sugar, and a long list of other crops. Newest corporate welfare is ethanol. We charge $0.50 for every gallon of imported ethanol. That is a nation who beleives in free trade?

Most of these crops are better grown in other nations such as Mexico. Ethanol that acutally takes less energy to make is in Brazil. Nations that could actually employ their own citizens if, for example, the US did not subsidize 50% of all sugar.

Why do fruit drinks now have so much sugar and no fruit? Again, with sugar paid for by the US government, why would they want to provide a drink that was healthy? Profits are now so high selling corn syrup as Apple Juice. Governement pays for that corn syrup. Government also makes it difficult for Jose to start a farm growing corn or making corn syrup.

Just one example of why American desperately needs so many illegal immigrants and why Jose cannot start in business in Mexico doing what Mexico could do better.

Meanwhile, this is all too complex for most Americans. Easier is to blame all problems on dirty dumb Mexicans. Just another emotion based in racism and 'knowledge without first learning the facts'.

Doha has failed - directly traceable to anti-free trading nations called United States and France.

Aliantha · 08-30-2007, 07:58 PM

If you were a US outlaw and the police were looking for you, where would you go?

xoxoxoBruce · 08-30-2007, 08:31 PM

Australia.

jinx · 08-30-2007, 08:37 PM

I, Jimi, and every other criminal in US pop culture would flee to Mexico.
Where do aussie criminals go ali?

Jimi Hendrix - Hey Joe

Hey Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand
Hey Joe, I said where you goin' with that gun in your hand

I'm going down to shoot my old lady
You know, I've caught her messin' around with another man
I'm going down to shoot my old lady
You know, I've caught her messin' around with another man
And that ain't too cool

Hey Joe, I've heard you shot your woman down,
shot her down, now
I said I've heard you shot your old lady down,
You shot her down to the ground

Yes I did, I shot her
You know, I caught her messin' round, messin' round town
Yes I did, I shot her
You know, I caught my old lady messin' around town
And I gave her the gun
I SHOT HER!

Hey Joe, alright
Shoot her one more time, baby

Hey Joe, said now
Where you gonna run to now?
Where you gonna run to?
Hey Joe, I said where you gonna run to now?
Where you, where you gonna go?
Well, dig it

I'm goin' way down south,
Way down to Mexico way
Alright!
I'm goin' way down south,
Way down where I can be free
Ain't no one gonna find me

Ain't no hangman gonna,
He ain't gonna put a rope around me
You better believe it right now
I gotta go now
Hey Joe, you better run on down
Good by everybody
Hey Joe, uhh
Run on down

xoxoxoBruce · 08-30-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

Just one example of why American desperately needs so many illegal immigrants and why Jose cannot start in business in Mexico doing what Mexico could do better.

Why can't Jose start a business, growing whatever, for Mexicans?

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Meanwhile, this is all too complex for most Americans. Easier is to blame all problems on dirty dumb Mexicans.

That's not a nice thing to say about them.

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Doha has failed - directly traceable to anti-free trading nations called United States and France.

I thought NAFTA was supposed to be the be all/end all, for fixing Mexico's problems.

yesman065 · 08-30-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

Meanwhile, this is all too complex for most Americans. Easier is to blame all problems on dirty dumb Mexicans. Just another emotion based in racism and 'knowledge without first learning the facts'.

Easier for you to blame the US - that seems to be your solution to everything. Lets stop all subsidies then - is that your solution?? We can then offer the money to mexico while our own farmers become unprofitable. Perhaps what you are saying is beyond me or just not entirely correct - I don't know which. This is dangerous, but here goes, care to elaborate?
BTW You didn't use "mental midget" nor "traceable to top management" once - I'm proud of ya.

Aliantha · 08-30-2007, 08:58 PM

Where do Aussie criminals go? Usually to prison if they get caught. Otherwise, they seem to have a penchant for Europe these days. Spain in particular. There's not really any one particular country that has been glamourized as 'the' place to go if you're trying to avoid the law though.

I suppose maybe they end up in the outback waiting to lure unsuspecting english tourists to their lair.

Elspode · 08-30-2007, 09:24 PM

Isn't the criminal's nationality irrelevant?

Aliantha · 08-30-2007, 10:05 PM

Probably...but there have been a couple of cases in the outback involving english tourists over the last decade or so. i'm thinking maybe they're the victim of choice.

9th Engineer · 08-30-2007, 10:41 PM

By tw's logic, wouldn't we be causing massive economic and social collapse in other countries as well? Wait, we must also be responsible for the massive incompetency of the Mexican government and their unwillingness to perform basic governmental regulation of the economy. And after all, we're their only hope because there's no way Mexicans can buy products made in Mexico!

tw · 08-30-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Why can't Jose start a business, growing whatever, for Mexicans?
That's not a nice thing to say about them.I thought NAFTA was supposed to be the be all/end all, for fixing Mexico's problems.

How does Jose grow sugar when American government subsidies for sugar make sugar prices less than what it costs Jose. Even American sugar growers would be bankrupt if trying to sell at those prices without government subsidizes. And that was the entire complaint against both US and France in the Doha round. A complaint so loud that most all countries in the world walked out of Cancun three days early.

NAFTA was supposed to open markets. And then Americans kept putting restrictions on free trade such as requiring goods be transferred to American trucks at the border. And then we restricted all Canadian lumber for years because it was selling at better prices. Well, yes. There are some reasons for anti-NAFTA restrictions. But we have this fact. Mexicans must come here to work for farmers. Those same agricultural products that could just as easily be grown in Mexico. But Mexican farmers cannot compete due to American corporate welfare that makes it impossible for other nations to sell competitively.

What is the price of your orange juice? What was it only two years ago? That gallon of orange juice selling for $6 could have been selling again for only $4 IF we permit Brazil to export their oranges. Where is this free trade? Where would so many immigrants go for jobs? Brazil. More illegal immigration solved by eliminating corporate welfare and other anti-free trade laws - by creating free markets.

08-30-2007, 11:23 AM	#16
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Flint has his own police force? Holy crap! __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-30-2007, 04:56 PM	#19
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If you were a Mexican outlaw, and the police were looking for you, where would you go? That's why we're getting so many criminals sneaking in, along with the people just looking for work. But if you say, it's a bad law so ignore it, that's what happens. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-30-2007, 07:58 PM	#21
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	If you were a US outlaw and the police were looking for you, where would you go? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

08-30-2007, 08:31 PM	#22
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Australia. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-30-2007, 08:37 PM	#23
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	I, Jimi, and every other criminal in US pop culture would flee to Mexico. Where do aussie criminals go ali? Jimi Hendrix - Hey Joe Hey Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand Hey Joe, I said where you goin' with that gun in your hand I'm going down to shoot my old lady You know, I've caught her messin' around with another man I'm going down to shoot my old lady You know, I've caught her messin' around with another man And that ain't too cool Hey Joe, I've heard you shot your woman down, shot her down, now I said I've heard you shot your old lady down, You shot her down to the ground Yes I did, I shot her You know, I caught her messin' round, messin' round town Yes I did, I shot her You know, I caught my old lady messin' around town And I gave her the gun I SHOT HER! Hey Joe, alright Shoot her one more time, baby Hey Joe, said now Where you gonna run to now? Where you gonna run to? Hey Joe, I said where you gonna run to now? Where you, where you gonna go? Well, dig it I'm goin' way down south, Way down to Mexico way Alright! I'm goin' way down south, Way down where I can be free Ain't no one gonna find me Ain't no hangman gonna, He ain't gonna put a rope around me You better believe it right now I gotta go now Hey Joe, you better run on down Good by everybody Hey Joe, uhh Run on down __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

08-30-2007, 04:00 PM	#18
minnmirman noob Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seymour WI/Ft Campbell KY Posts: 43	I dont see why that wouldnt be agreeable to everyone. I have no problem with immigration, but I was pretty pissed when my truck was hit by someone who was here illegally and my rates went way up when my company had to pay for it (some time ago). I realize that it seems conceited to worry about my insurance rates when that person would end up being deported, but it's a small example of a big problem. Maybe Mexico should start doing something that would make their people not want to run north

08-30-2007, 08:58 PM	#26
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Where do Aussie criminals go? Usually to prison if they get caught. Otherwise, they seem to have a penchant for Europe these days. Spain in particular. There's not really any one particular country that has been glamourized as 'the' place to go if you're trying to avoid the law though. I suppose maybe they end up in the outback waiting to lure unsuspecting english tourists to their lair. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

08-30-2007, 09:24 PM	#27
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Isn't the criminal's nationality irrelevant? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

08-30-2007, 10:05 PM	#28
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Probably...but there have been a couple of cases in the outback involving english tourists over the last decade or so. i'm thinking maybe they're the victim of choice. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

08-30-2007, 10:41 PM	#29
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	By tw's logic, wouldn't we be causing massive economic and social collapse in other countries as well? Wait, we must also be responsible for the massive incompetency of the Mexican government and their unwillingness to perform basic governmental regulation of the economy. And after all, we're their only hope because there's no way Mexicans can buy products made in Mexico! __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

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