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DanaC · 09-05-2007, 05:25 AM

I think the Israeli action is by outsiders. There was a call on the website for as many clowns as possible to go to Israel to protest the Wall.

9th Engineer · 09-05-2007, 11:54 AM

Which they will undoubtedly be doing from the Israeli side of it, if they see themselves as fit to protest in the Middle East then I'll listen to them when they hold a rally in Saudi Arabia or Iran.

queequeger · 09-05-2007, 04:40 PM

Haha! So unless someone puts themselves at great risk they're not worth your time? That's a pretty interesting way to look at the world.

DanaC · 09-05-2007, 05:21 PM

They aren't commandos, they're clowns. They protest by mocking and belittling the powerful. In the Middle East the powerful are the Israeli government and 'defence force' so that is who they go to to belittle and mock. Fools have always had the privelege of mocking the powerful.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-05-2007, 06:57 PM

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Fools have always had the privelege of mocking the powerful.

Not everywhere.

9th Engineer · 09-05-2007, 08:16 PM

I'm saying that if you can't hold your rally among the people you are supporting, then it's time to reevaluate your agenda. If they want to protest the wall, let them do it from the Palestinian side.

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Haha! So unless someone puts themselves at great risk they're not worth your time? That's a pretty interesting way to look at the world.

I want them to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak. You yourself admit that there's some serious hate'n going on over there that they can address if they really feel that strongly about it.

queequeger · 09-05-2007, 08:53 PM

You can feel pretty strongly about something and still not want to risk your life over it. Ever stop to think that they're protesting in favor of the ones who aren't a danger? Most palestinians don't feel like killing anyone they can get their hands on, but there are some that do. The idea that these people have to risk themselves to prove a point is beyond stupid. There's no reason for it.

MY opinion is that you just feel like finding some way to ignore them because you disagree with them. "That's it, I'll just call 'em pussies!"

DanaC · 09-06-2007, 03:59 AM

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I'm saying that if you can't hold your rally among the people you are supporting, then it's time to reevaluate your agenda. If they want to protest the wall, let them do it from the Palestinian side.

The point isn't to talk to the Palestinians though. Their whole modus operandi is to protest to and at the people in power who are, in their eyes, the villains of the piece. Protesting to the palestinians about their plight wouldn't help.

TheMercenary · 09-13-2007, 01:43 PM

Now that was funny.

"White Powder!"

9th Engineer · 09-13-2007, 03:46 PM

Villains of the peace? It's a UN founded and supported country, 2/3'rds vote. Effectively, to challenge Israel's right to exist is to challenge the authority of the UN in all such matters. You can of course, I'm just clarifying.

DanaC · 09-13-2007, 04:35 PM

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Effectively, to challenge Israel's right to exist is to challenge the authority of the UN in all such matters. You can of course, I'm just clarifying.

There's a difference between challenging Israel's right to exist and protesting against their treatment of the Palestinians.

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It's a UN founded and supported country, 2/3'rds vote.

The same UN that time after time attempts to censure Israel's actions only to have that censure blocked by one member using its veto (USA). The same UN that has deemed Israel to be in contravention of International law in its continued occupation of Palestine Territory. The same UN which has voiced serious concerns about Israel's continued Human Rights breaches.

Aliantha · 09-13-2007, 08:06 PM

I don't think they're challenging Israels right to exist. Aren't they trying to help people understand that building a wall to shut out those you disagree with is silly, and even sillier when they're supposed to be on your side anyway (meaning of course that it's jews against jews for the most part).

TheMercenary · 09-13-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

There's a difference between challenging Israel's right to exist and protesting against their treatment of the Palestinians.

The same UN that time after time attempts to censure Israel's actions only to have that censure blocked by one member using its veto (USA). The same UN that has deemed Israel to be in contravention of International law in its continued occupation of Palestine Territory. The same UN which has voiced serious concerns about Israel's continued Human Rights breaches.

The UN as an orgainzation is a dismal failure. I wish we would stop throwing money at it.

9th Engineer · 09-14-2007, 06:34 PM

I'm sure that if it was just a disagreement instead of a daily rocket exchange they wouldn't bother with a wall. A wall is purely defensive, not an attack on anyone else.

DanaC · 09-14-2007, 06:59 PM

It's an attack when it effectively imprisons the populations of entire towns (refugee camps). And Walls aren't the only weapon Israel employs. You cannot reduce the Middle East conflict to Palestine firing rockets and Israel building a wall.

09-05-2007, 11:54 AM	#17
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Which they will undoubtedly be doing from the Israeli side of it, if they see themselves as fit to protest in the Middle East then I'll listen to them when they hold a rally in Saudi Arabia or Iran. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

09-05-2007, 04:40 PM	#18
queequeger Hypercharismatic Telepathical Knight Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The armpit of the Universe... Augusta, GA Posts: 365	Haha! So unless someone puts themselves at great risk they're not worth your time? That's a pretty interesting way to look at the world. __________________ Hoocha, hoocha, hoocha... lobster.

09-05-2007, 08:53 PM	#22
queequeger Hypercharismatic Telepathical Knight Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The armpit of the Universe... Augusta, GA Posts: 365	You can feel pretty strongly about something and still not want to risk your life over it. Ever stop to think that they're protesting in favor of the ones who aren't a danger? Most palestinians don't feel like killing anyone they can get their hands on, but there are some that do. The idea that these people have to risk themselves to prove a point is beyond stupid. There's no reason for it. MY opinion is that you just feel like finding some way to ignore them because you disagree with them. "That's it, I'll just call 'em pussies!" __________________ Hoocha, hoocha, hoocha... lobster.

09-13-2007, 01:43 PM	#24
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Now that was funny. "White Powder!" __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

09-13-2007, 03:46 PM	#25
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Villains of the peace? It's a UN founded and supported country, 2/3'rds vote. Effectively, to challenge Israel's right to exist is to challenge the authority of the UN in all such matters. You can of course, I'm just clarifying. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

09-05-2007, 05:25 AM	#16
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I think the Israeli action is by outsiders. There was a call on the website for as many clowns as possible to go to Israel to protest the Wall.

09-05-2007, 05:21 PM	#19
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	They aren't commandos, they're clowns. They protest by mocking and belittling the powerful. In the Middle East the powerful are the Israeli government and 'defence force' so that is who they go to to belittle and mock. Fools have always had the privelege of mocking the powerful.

09-13-2007, 08:06 PM	#27
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I don't think they're challenging Israels right to exist. Aren't they trying to help people understand that building a wall to shut out those you disagree with is silly, and even sillier when they're supposed to be on your side anyway (meaning of course that it's jews against jews for the most part). __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

09-14-2007, 06:34 PM	#29
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	I'm sure that if it was just a disagreement instead of a daily rocket exchange they wouldn't bother with a wall. A wall is purely defensive, not an attack on anyone else. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

09-14-2007, 06:59 PM	#30
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	It's an attack when it effectively imprisons the populations of entire towns (refugee camps). And Walls aren't the only weapon Israel employs. You cannot reduce the Middle East conflict to Palestine firing rockets and Israel building a wall.

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