I have a question for you strummers.... - Page 2

Cicero · 10-15-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Er, you mean Ducks?

Oooh. Ooops. Holy .....! Ducks...! wow. I meant Ducks!

Wow. That was so screwed up.

Sorry.

DucksNuts · 10-15-2007, 06:04 PM

I dont know whether to be insulted that Clod was so quick to point out the error.....or flattered that Cic thought I was Clod to start off with.

Elspode · 10-15-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Avoiding the noise is a large part of being a good bass player, since the winding on bass strings is larger and heavier. One way is to turn the treble down on the bass until the sound is just a bunch of mud. The other way is to use strings that haven't been changed in 20 years and eat greasy fried chicken just before every gig. James Jamerson, maybe the most important bass player in history, used that second technique.

...and died relatively young. Of course, the booze and drugs may have contributed somewhat.

What a killer bassist he was. If you haven't seen it, you must watch "Standing in the Shadows of Motown", the documentary about the Funk Brothers, the studio musicians who backed most of the great music to come out of Detroit in the golden era.

Elspode · 10-15-2007, 09:30 PM

Re: finger squeaks - I posted a rough mix of a track Lane and I have done that is absolutely *ruined* by the squeaking of my fingers on the guitar as I slide up to a chord. The slide is necessary, the squeak makes it all but unusable.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-18-2007, 12:23 AM

For a good, likely deliberate, use of the slide-sound, listen to the opening bars of the live version of Smoke On The Water on Made In Japan. They put them on the backbeat. The lead guitar, I think, and on the wrapped strings.

thealphajerk · 10-22-2007, 03:28 AM

i love the bands that deliberately and prominently use the finger sound as part of a riff, not always appropriate, but for for any "balls to the wall" music (i don't know where that one came from), it can be extremely complimentary specially when honed into a fine art.. ie: zakk wilde
probably not so useful with say, i dunno... kenny burrell
haha

Bitman · 10-26-2007, 07:53 PM

I second that motion: my favorite example of "playing dirty" is Zakk Wilde, song "Speedball".

Playing an instrument is an art, and art is defined as "it's all good, unless it isn't." If it sounds good, keep it; if not, practice harder.

I'm a newbie player myself, so my playing is always unintentionally messy. Sometimes it sounds OK, but when I'm practicing, I try to play precisely. If I can get that down, then I'll be able to re-insert some dirt with some degree of reliability and "art".

dar512 · 10-26-2007, 09:56 PM

Trivia - there is a midi patch in the GM spec called "fret noise" 121? which you could use to make a midi with guitar parts sound more realistic. So at least someone considers them part of the art.

Of course now that we don't care about the size of data storage or transmission anymore, midi is pretty much a dinosaur.

10-15-2007, 09:30 PM	#19
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Re: finger squeaks - I posted a rough mix of a track Lane and I have done that is absolutely ruined by the squeaking of my fingers on the guitar as I slide up to a chord. The slide is necessary, the squeak makes it all but unusable. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

10-18-2007, 12:23 AM	#20
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	For a good, likely deliberate, use of the slide-sound, listen to the opening bars of the live version of Smoke On The Water on Made In Japan. They put them on the backbeat. The lead guitar, I think, and on the wrapped strings. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

10-26-2007, 09:56 PM	#23
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Trivia - there is a midi patch in the GM spec called "fret noise" 121? which you could use to make a midi with guitar parts sound more realistic. So at least someone considers them part of the art. Of course now that we don't care about the size of data storage or transmission anymore, midi is pretty much a dinosaur. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

10-15-2007, 06:04 PM	#17
DucksNuts Bitchy Little Brat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,067	I dont know whether to be insulted that Clod was so quick to point out the error.....or flattered that Cic thought I was Clod to start off with.

10-22-2007, 03:28 AM	#21
thealphajerk Super Intendent Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mount evelyn, vic, aus. Posts: 240	i love the bands that deliberately and prominently use the finger sound as part of a riff, not always appropriate, but for for any "balls to the wall" music (i don't know where that one came from), it can be extremely complimentary specially when honed into a fine art.. ie: zakk wilde probably not so useful with say, i dunno... kenny burrell haha

10-26-2007, 07:53 PM	#22
Bitman cellar smellar Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: californy, baby! Posts: 403	I second that motion: my favorite example of "playing dirty" is Zakk Wilde, song "Speedball". Playing an instrument is an art, and art is defined as "it's all good, unless it isn't." If it sounds good, keep it; if not, practice harder. I'm a newbie player myself, so my playing is always unintentionally messy. Sometimes it sounds OK, but when I'm practicing, I try to play precisely. If I can get that down, then I'll be able to re-insert some dirt with some degree of reliability and "art".

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