Urine tests for welfare recipients - Page 3

Shawnee123 · 02-11-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Bottom line, you don't want to piss in the cup quit. Employers have every right to secure their job place and protect the public from errors that could be caused by drug use in the work place.

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

So they should give an IQ test, too? How about a driving test? Test for alcohol? Diabetics have been known to act eratically if their sugar sky rockets - better get a hemogloin a1-c on everybody. And how can you test for asshole?

What I do in my spare time is none of my employer's business until it effects my performance at work.

And I did once. Got injured because some slack-jaw built a unit wrong and it got hot and burned me as I tested it. Some tested units could have killed me. Went for treatment to be told I needed to pee in a cup. I refused (and not because I wouldn't have passed.) Fuck them. DId they test slack-jaw? Where's the IQ test? Your directive, then, is moot to me.

Shawnee123 · 02-11-2008, 02:52 PM

"Mom, everyone else is jumping off the cliff so it MUST be the right thing to do." Is that really your argument?

TheMercenary · 02-11-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

And I did once. Got injured because some slack-jaw built a unit wrong and it got hot and burned me as I tested it. Some tested units could have killed me. Went for treatment to be told I needed to pee in a cup. I refused (and not because I wouldn't have passed.) Fuck them. DId they test slack-jaw? Where's the IQ test? Your directive, then, is moot to me.

And if it was a condition of employment you could easily be fired.

TheMercenary · 02-11-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

"Mom, everyone else is jumping off the cliff so it MUST be the right thing to do." Is that really your argument?

Where did anyone say that it was following a crowd? Quite the opposite.

Shawnee123 · 02-11-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

And if it was a condition of employment you could easily be fired.

Glad you plucked out a point, there. Yes, I was fired. I was following my principle: they never went out on any limbs for me, treated employees like dirt, and loved the slack-jawed. No big loss.

monster · 02-11-2008, 03:21 PM

If enough people refused, the emplyers would have to rethink. I bet they don't test movie stars....

lumberjim · 02-11-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

And how can you test for asshole?

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Quick! To the Spexxometer!

monster · 02-11-2008, 03:23 PM

As for refusing welfare to people who fail, what are you going to do with them? Build a bigger wall round your property and employ more guards to keep then from robbing you to fund their "habit"? Or divert the welfare into a worthwhile rehab program? what?

TheMercenary · 02-11-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by monster

If enough people refused, the emplyers would have to rethink. I bet they don't test movie stars....

I guess it is business specific. I would also bet that most of the people at the top don't have to get tested. Certainly a double standard there. I think it is only important for dangerous jobs or jobs where other people depend on big safety issues.

TheMercenary · 02-11-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by monster

As for refusing welfare to people who fail, what are you going to do with them? Build a bigger wall round your property and employ more guards to keep then from robbing you to fund their "habit"? Or divert the welfare into a worthwhile rehab program? what?

Shawnee123 · 02-11-2008, 03:40 PM

lol...no week is complete in the Cellar without a Soylent Green reference. Well done!

classicman · 02-11-2008, 03:56 PM

How sober do you want your surgeon to be when he/she operates on you? Would you like him/her thinkin about his/her next drink or having the shakes? Perhaps your in an accident or your appendix or gall bladder bursts on the weekend and the surgeon was on "his/her time"? I'm not condoning anything, I'm just saying - I want my doc to be as clear headed as possible.

Shawnee123 · 02-11-2008, 03:59 PM

You are cracking me UP! Do you think your doc gets drug tested? And what does this have to do with the price of eggs in China again?

I've seen plenty of drunk docs...waited on them at the club. They weren't doctoring. The lawyers weren't lawyering. The business owners weren't business ownering. The gold pros weren't golf proing.

Spexxvet · 02-11-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

You are cracking me UP! Do you think your doc gets drug tested? And what does this have to do with the price of eggs in China again?

I've seen plenty of drunk docs...waited on them at the club. They weren't doctoring. The lawyers weren't lawyering. The business owners weren't business ownering. The gold pros weren't golf proing.

And doctors get the BEST drugs, ya know.

Shawnee123 · 02-11-2008, 04:02 PM

Just ask House!

02-11-2008, 03:21 PM	#36
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	If enough people refused, the emplyers would have to rethink. I bet they don't test movie stars.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

02-11-2008, 03:23 PM	#38
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	As for refusing welfare to people who fail, what are you going to do with them? Build a bigger wall round your property and employ more guards to keep then from robbing you to fund their "habit"? Or divert the welfare into a worthwhile rehab program? what? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

02-11-2008, 03:56 PM	#42
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	How sober do you want your surgeon to be when he/she operates on you? Would you like him/her thinkin about his/her next drink or having the shakes? Perhaps your in an accident or your appendix or gall bladder bursts on the weekend and the surgeon was on "his/her time"? I'm not condoning anything, I'm just saying - I want my doc to be as clear headed as possible. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-11-2008, 02:52 PM	#32
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	"Mom, everyone else is jumping off the cliff so it MUST be the right thing to do." Is that really your argument?

02-11-2008, 03:40 PM	#41
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	lol...no week is complete in the Cellar without a Soylent Green reference. Well done!

02-11-2008, 03:59 PM	#43
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	You are cracking me UP! Do you think your doc gets drug tested? And what does this have to do with the price of eggs in China again? I've seen plenty of drunk docs...waited on them at the club. They weren't doctoring. The lawyers weren't lawyering. The business owners weren't business ownering. The gold pros weren't golf proing.

02-11-2008, 04:02 PM	#45
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Just ask House!

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