Jimmy Carter, Nobel Peace Prize Winner

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Originally posted by hermit22
George Jr. was actually opposed to being the world's policeman. He criticized Clinton for that constantly on the campaign trail. He took a much more isolationist approach to world affairs and military commital.

George Jr was planning his Saddam disposal strategy probably long before he took office AND definitely before 11 September. How does that jibe with George Jr's isolationist policies? Or did George Jr simply misrepresent himself to get elected?

George Jr also promised a government of tolerance only to pack his administration with right wing hawks. Tolerance is to put a moderate Christi Whitman in the EPA, then tell her what her decisions will be - facts be damned. Collin Powell calls Whitman the administration's 'wind dummy'. She demonstrates which way the right wing extremist are blowing. That is called tolerance?

George Jr also criticized Clinton for nation building. And yet nation building is exactly what is ongoing in Afghanistan and what is currently being planned for American occupation forces in Iraq. Another reversal by George Jr?

Then there was George Jr's Cincinnati speech where he was going to prove that Saddam is a direct threat to the US - that is until Sen Graham (FL) pulled out all the facts just before the speech could be delivered. Another post elsewhere described it best:

On October 9, almost a week after [CIA Director] Tenet received his whipping at the hands of Graham, the senator's hardman approach paid off when the director of the CIA admitted that the only reason Saddam would use WMDs against the United
States was if he was backed into a corner -- due to a strike by the American military -- and realised he was about to fall. Saddam, Tenet was saying, would only become the nightmare that Bush envisaged, if Bush attacked him first.

Saddam is only a threat to the US in the dreams of George Jr. Facts say otherwise - even from George Jr's own intelligence services. So is George Jr misrepresenting facts again when he says Iraq is a threat to the US? Apparently even the CIA agrees that Iraq is only a threat if the US unilaterally attacks. So that George Jr is not caught lying again, will he therefore order an attack on Iraq?

One need go back to the days of Nixon and Cambodia to see so many misrepresentations of the truth by the executive branch. Even worse, some Americans actually believe that Saddam is a threat to the US - again - facts be damned.

[hermit22]

All that you've said is true, and I think it's an extension of the same close-minded, isolationist approach that fueled his criticisms of Clinton - whether or not those criticisms are valid.

[j03L10T]

www.abovetopsecret.com

You will have to type it in manually as I have little knowledge of the functions of these tiny little button things aroun this space where the posts are written. Very interesting reading material indeed.

[AlexZello]

What do you think of Obadiah Shoher's views on the Middle East conflict? One can argue, of course, that Shoher is ultra-right, but his followers are far from being a marginal group. Also, he rejects Jewish moralistic reasoning - that's alone is highly unusual for the Israeli right. And he is very influential here in Israel. So what do you think?

[xoxoxoBruce]

Who is Obadiah Shoher, and how does he affect you in the Ukraine?

[TheMercenary]

Jimmy Carter is a total pussy. One of the best modern examples of a failed president.

[Aliantha]

Merc, did you notice that the OP was 2002?

[AlexZello]

Originally Posted by AlexZello

What do you think of Obadiah Shoher's views on the Middle East conflict? One can argue, of course, that Shoher is ultra-right, but his followers are far from being a marginal group. Also, he rejects Jewish moralistic reasoning - that's alone is highly unusual for the Israeli right. And he is very influential here in Israel. So what do you think?

uh, here's the site in question: Middle East conflict

[deadbeater]

Er, I think little of Obadiah and his ilk's opinions. In ten or so more years there will be more Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, combined with the Arabs living in Israel,than there will be Israelis in Israel. I fear US-supported genocide, or real apartheid, may happen.