An interesting view on the Muslims

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

That this is more cultural than religious?

Well I think it is both in this conflict as well. But the motivations are much different IMHO. I consider more so the Iraq on Iraq and Afgan on Afgan than I do the attacks on any of the US or NATO forces. Much of the root cause is political as well with attempts to motivate and insite reprisal attacks by waring parties. There is much at play here.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well I think it is both in this conflict as well. But the motivations are much different IMHO. I consider more so the Iraq on Iraq and Afgan on Afgan than I do the attacks on any of the US or NATO forces. Much of the root cause is political as well with attempts to motivate and insite reprisal attacks by waring parties. There is much at play here.

I agree. Forcing integration in these countries is not going to end well IMO. But unfortunately, there aren't many other choices.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Now tw's crying, "Poor me." Well, that's something new. A small thing, but a new thing. Being tw, he can't tell refutation from insult, and wouldn't want to if he could.

So we get self-pitying from him now. It's not exactly a shock. Tw's every personal trait ever displayed here seems designed to elicit contempt. I'm not, I think, alone in this perception.

Let's see, while I am on occasion abrasive while attempting to ablate somebody's layers of accreted BS, I retain my self-possession, and am not ruled by my resentments, nor am I petty, obsessive, or a leftover Communist, nor a palpable anti-patriot. I display fairness of mind regularly. I also display a clarity of vision tw lacks. Not bad for a guy who wears bifocals.

In what particulars, Glatt, am I overboard? Do you think I'm somehow unfair here?

And for those who wish to tell me be careful not to dislocate my arm patting myself on the back -- I'm double-jointed, too.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

I agree. Forcing integration in these countries is not going to end well IMO. But unfortunately, there aren't many other choices.

I have said it before and will say it again. Partition is the only peaceful solution IMHO. Break it up into three parts and make Bagdad a center of the integrated parts. There is no other peaceful solution in my mind.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I have said it before and will say it again. Partition is the only peaceful solution IMHO. Break it up into three parts and make Bagdad a center of the integrated parts. There is no other peaceful solution in my mind.

Oh, you mean like the US.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Oh, you mean like the US.

Absolutely not. It could never happen. We cannot and should not try to impose our ideals of western democracy on their society.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Break it up into three parts and make Bagdad a center of the integrated parts.

Break it up into 50 parts and make Washington, DC, a center of the integrated parts.

Oh, and heavy on the state's rights.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Break it up into 50 parts and make Washington, DC, a center of the integrated parts.

Oh, and heavy on the state's rights.

Something like that. The shell only. Let them figure out what they want to do with it.