10/30/2004: Young bin Laden in Sweden - Page 2

mmmBoy · 11-01-2004, 11:00 AM

He definitely put the GRRRR back in Groovy World Terrorist, baby!

Trilby · 11-01-2004, 11:06 AM

Kitsune · 11-01-2004, 11:11 AM

Here's why: Osama vacationed there as a kid, and seemed to enjoy it pretty much ... You don't mess with memories like that by bombing them.

Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Too bad New York's board of tourism couldn't have convinced the bin Laden's to visit back in the 70s. All of this could have been prevented!

Cyber Wolf · 11-01-2004, 11:31 AM

I wouldn't deny that's a family picture...every last one of them has the exact same nose! I mean look at it. You can't miss it! The only exception is the girl on the far left in the purple pants. Her nose doesn't match. She seems a bit out of place in that photo.

wolf · 11-01-2004, 12:44 PM

Recessive gene, resulting from infidel invader who got lost during 2nd Crusade, no doubt.

susancic · 05-26-2008, 09:19 AM

yesterday's NYTimes Book Review (p.11) claims Osama "did not make the trip," i.e., is not in this photo

Flint · 05-26-2008, 09:43 AM

Wow, four-year-old thread bump. Welcome to the Cellar, susancic.

Undertoad · 05-26-2008, 09:45 AM

That's possible. The fact that this was originally a Sun item does not speak much to its truthiness.

All Snopes has to say is "...he has never been to the West (save for brief excursion to Sweden as a child and a tour of Oxford in 1971)..." But as proof of that statement they point to a Frontline bio that doesn't mention Sweden. Maybe Frontline edited after getting more detail.

This Guardian article from shortly after 911 seems rather certain it's real:

Quote:

America's most wanted fugitive is wearing flares and a skinny-rib jumper, and smiling broadly, craning his neck so the camera will not miss him. Judging by his smile, and those of his 21 brothers and sisters, he grasps the absurdity of the situation. An improbably large group of fashionable Saudi siblings, sitting on a gas-guzzling American car in the middle of a faded copper-mining town in central Sweden on a bright day in 1971: the photographer from the local daily would hardly have been doing his job had he not requested a group shot. Osama bin Laden and his older brother Salem had first visited Falun the year before, arriving in Copenhagen in a private jet carrying a Rolls-Royce, in which they completed their journey. They were millionaires by then, but they stayed at the cut-price Astoria hotel, where the owner, Christina Akerblad, recalled them spending the days out "on business" and the evenings eating dinner in their rooms. "I remember them as two beautiful boys - the girls in Falun were very fond of them," she said. "Osama played with my two sons, Anders and Gerk, who were seven and five." They kept themselves to themselves. They bought silk shirts. They provided short-lived excitement to bored local policeman who thought they might be drug dealers. They liked it so much they came back the next year, with brothers and sisters in tow. The biggest alleged murderer in modern peacetime history was 14.

This Guardian item interviews the original journalist who was there for the photo and talked with bin Laden's father for the item. It also suggests the original item from 2001 ran in the Daily Mail as well.

I say it remains an interesting note that he mentioned Sweden in his tape and either he, or just the rest of his family, had a nice vacation there.

TheMercenary · 05-27-2008, 06:47 AM

WOW! Since I join The Cellar much after that I have never seen this. Is there a way to look back at many of the older links to the daily pictures?

Undertoad · 05-27-2008, 08:27 AM

The archives: http://cellar.org/iotdarch.php

It occurs to me that there are so many IotDs that we should really have a "Best of" section. Maybe a field of 64 for each year would be a good thing.

11-01-2004, 11:06 AM	#17
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11-01-2004, 11:31 AM	#19
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	I wouldn't deny that's a family picture...every last one of them has the exact same nose! I mean look at it. You can't miss it! The only exception is the girl on the far left in the purple pants. Her nose doesn't match. She seems a bit out of place in that photo. __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens Last edited by Cyber Wolf; 11-01-2004 at 10:20 PM.

11-01-2004, 12:44 PM	#20
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Recessive gene, resulting from infidel invader who got lost during 2nd Crusade, no doubt. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-26-2008, 09:43 AM	#22
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05-27-2008, 06:47 AM	#24
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	WOW! Since I join The Cellar much after that I have never seen this. Is there a way to look back at many of the older links to the daily pictures? __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

11-01-2004, 11:00 AM	#16
mmmBoy El Queso Grande Join Date: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 54	He definitely put the GRRRR back in Groovy World Terrorist, baby!

11-01-2004, 11:11 AM	#18
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Here's why: Osama vacationed there as a kid, and seemed to enjoy it pretty much ... You don't mess with memories like that by bombing them. Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Too bad New York's board of tourism couldn't have convinced the bin Laden's to visit back in the 70s. All of this could have been prevented!

05-26-2008, 09:19 AM	#21
susancic Kinda New Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chester County, PA Posts: 1	yesterday's NYTimes Book Review (p.11) claims Osama "did not make the trip," i.e., is not in this photo

05-27-2008, 08:27 AM	#25
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The archives: http://cellar.org/iotdarch.php It occurs to me that there are so many IotDs that we should really have a "Best of" section. Maybe a field of 64 for each year would be a good thing.

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