Sarah Palin

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No different.
She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

She was fired, and rehired after public outrage. She eventually quit.

She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982.

They say she was, and she did address their convention. She could have just been humoring them, though.

Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska's schools. She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question, but she also said creationism "doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

"has not pushed" was probably the best way you could have phrased that, as she both called for teaching creationism, and promised not to push it during her campaign. Of course, even the idea of "both sides" is problematic in itself, as "both" implies "two", and once magic is allowed, there are infinite possible "sides" to the "debate".

Did Sarah Palin make rape victims pay for their own rape kits? No.

During her term, under her chosen police chief, the bills for rape kits, and no other police activity, were sent to the victims' insurance. So, Yes.

As for Kos, on a site where anyone can post anything I wouldn't have mentioned anything if you'd restricted your original comment to posters. But you included bloggers, implying some level of support from the Daily Kos iteslf.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Oh God this is rich, The Daily Kos at the forefront again.

So we have an example of "The Daily Kos at the forefront again." That diary entry has five reccommendations, and is full of comments debunking the story. To show up outside of the archives for more than a few minutes, you need hundreds of reccommendations. So not only did this forefront issue not come from Kos bloggers, it didn't even attract much support from the posters.

And none of your examples rise to the level of "terrorist", which was what your original "no different" was a response to.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

She was fired, and rehired after public outrage. She eventually quit.They say she was, and she did address their convention. She could have just been humoring them, though."has not pushed" was probably the best way you could have phrased that, as she both called for teaching creationism, and promised not to push it during her campaign. Of course, even the idea of "both sides" is problematic in itself, as "both" implies "two", and once magic is allowed, there are infinite possible "sides" to the "debate". During her term, under her chosen police chief, the bills for rape kits, and no other police activity, were sent to the victims' insurance. So, Yes.

As for Kos, on a site where anyone can post anything I wouldn't have mentioned anything if you'd restricted your original comment to posters. But you included bloggers, implying some level of support from the Daily Kos iteslf. So we have an example of "The Daily Kos at the forefront again." That diary entry has five reccommendations, and is full of comments debunking the story. To show up outside of the archives for more than a few minutes, you need hundreds of reccommendations. So not only did this forefront issue not come from Kos bloggers, it didn't even attract much support from the posters.

And none of your examples rise to the level of "terrorist", which was what your original "no different" was a response to.

You need to do more research, much of that is bull shit that does not directly involve Palin. Another prime example of KOS rumor picked up and run by the liberal press is the SAT score Scandle.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You need to do more research, much of that is bull shit that does not directly involve Palin

All of it involves Palin. The rape kits may or may not directly involve her, but the rest do. None of it is bull shit.

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

All of it involves Palin. The rape kits may or may not directly involve her, but the rest do. None of it is bull shit.

If Palin was so innocent, then she would have scored significant political points by aggressively denying those accusations. Then use those accusations as proof that she was being smeared. Instead Palin was silent.

Palin, who is right there continuously with McCain and his campaign staff, says nothing? Instead we only get this tacit denial from the campaign's communications director?

In a statement, Jill Hazelbaker, communications director for Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign, said that "to imply that Gov. Palin is or has ever been an advocate of charging victims for evidence gathering kits is an utter distortion of reality."

"As her record shows, Gov. Palin is committed to supporting victims and bringing violent criminals to justice," Hazelbaker said. "She does not, nor has she ever believed that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence gathering test."

Either the campaign is so devoid of political savvy as to not have Palin deny this, or the campaign has good reasons to fear further press investigations. Well the McCain campaign also cannot trust Palin to campaign without McCain. Numerous reasons why Palin does not deny this accusation - and all suggest negative conclusions about Palin.

If the problem did not exist, a politically savvy Palin would have personally done the denials AND earned political points for doing so. She did not or could not. Either way, that is the damning fact – just another problem with the right wing’s perfect choice.

Even George Jr was not so dumb as to be kept mute on the campaign trail.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

All of it involves Palin. The rape kits may or may not directly involve her, but the rest do. None of it is bull shit.

Total and utter Bull Shit.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Total and utter Bull Shit.

In the absence of any elaboration, I'm going to have to consider your frequent "bull shit" as an ungracious way of conceding the point.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

In the absence of any elaboration, I'm going to have to consider your frequent "bull shit" as an ungracious way of conceding the point.

Not important to me.