Tonights Debate 15 Oct 2008 - Page 2

Aliantha · 10-15-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Ali, just the Stupids. I talk down to 'em myself.

Well UG my friend, as you can probably guess, I'd be voting for Obama if I were a US citizen. Does that mean you think I'm a stupid too?

richlevy · 10-15-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Well UG my friend, as you can probably guess, I'd be voting for Obama if I were a US citizen. Does that mean you think I'm a stupid too?

Wait a minute. You said 'my friend'. Are you senile?

Aliantha · 10-15-2008, 11:18 PM

No, just stupid.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-15-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

I've never understood

Truer words were never spoken.

Radar · 10-16-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

Kudos to Obama for trying to engage this guy. If someone had tried a similar tactic with Palin she would have shouted him down with "Sir bless you for exercising your right that my son is risking his life for and you need to think of your country first".

Joe the Plumber is an idiot. He was a plant from the McCain campaign sent there to ambush Obama. Obama handled it with class, dignity, and character as he always does.

In fact, I wish he would get down a dirty. Tonight McCain mentioned ACORN and Ayres. Two things that have no connection to the Obama campaign and are nothing but sleazy attempts to smear Obama. I was begging Obama from my screen to mention McCain's association with G. Gordon Liddy, or his close personal friendship with Charles Keating in which his entire family (including the babysitter) were flown to the Bahamas on Keating who was stealing money from Lincoln savings and loan. McCain was the most corrupt member of the Keating Five. Obama should have mentioned McCain's close association with a white supremacist named Richard Quinn, who found himself hired as a political advisor by McCain in 2000.

Obama is an honorable man, and I commend him for taking the high road, but I desperately want to see him take off his jacket and tie, roll up his sleeves and sling the same kind of mud that McCain is doing.

John McCain's campaign is straight out of Karl Rove's playbook. McCain has launched the largest and dirtiest smear campaign in the history of global politics. His supporters spread racist messages, outright lies, idiotic accusations about being Muslim, or not being patriotic, or things that don't matter like what his pastor or wife said. These sleezeballs doctor photos, lie about his hand over his heart during the pledge when the photo was taken during the song "America the Beautiful"...not the national anthem.

In every McCain campaign commercial they spread lies. They question his integrity and character. Obama sticks to the issues and tells the truth. That is refreshing for an American Presidential candidate.

The filthy lies and smears to attack Obama have obviously not worked for McCain because he's behind in the polls by double-digits. It would have been nice to see Obama get a few gut shots and finish the debates with a knockout instead of a unanimous decision.

glatt · 10-16-2008, 07:23 AM

I think McCain only said "My Friends" twice last night. Somebody must have talked to him about it.

Pie · 10-16-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar

Obama is an honorable man, and I commend him for taking the high road, but I desperately want to see him take off his jacket and tie, roll up his sleeves and sling the same kind of mud that McCain is doing.

He can win without it. Why take the risk?
It's exactly this sort of calculus that makes me support his presidency. I want someone who can weigh the pros and cons without emotion and chose the correct solution. If Spock were running, I would vote for him.

DanaC · 10-16-2008, 08:28 AM

I think it would be a big mistake for Obama to get down and dirty. Right now he is doing things differently and people seem to appreciate it.

Cloud · 10-16-2008, 08:38 AM

I certainly do. The man has class, whereas McCain comes across as a thug.

Shawnee123 · 10-16-2008, 08:38 AM

I thought I was watching Sesame Street. Joe the Plumber. "These are the people in your neighborhood, in your neighborhood..."

I was squirming FOR McCain, every time he got pissy, rolled his eyes, snorted, and started breathing heavily and sighing. I thought he was melting before my very eyes. I was thinking "hold on there, John...wait, is your finger near the proverbial button?"

I like the fact that the person who will be representing our country can hold a conversation with class and dignity, and not be flustered when engaged in debate. Are these not important traits for a president?

DanaC · 10-16-2008, 08:43 AM

Yehbut...would you want to have a beer with him? I wouldn't. I'd much pefer a bottle of wine.

Pie · 10-16-2008, 08:45 AM

I'd smoke cigars and drink scotch with him.

Big Sarge · 10-16-2008, 08:50 AM

Radar,

You need to check you facts. I've noticed many of your posts are filled with incorrect information.

The Senate Ethics Committee determined that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly.

Sundae · 10-16-2008, 09:12 AM

There aren't many politicians I'd want to have a drink with.
Unless they were paying of course, and then - have at it!

Except Sinn Fein of course.
There isn't a brewery big enough to provide enough beer to get me to sit down with them.
I never really forgave Clinton for shaking Gerry Adam's hand.

classicman · 10-16-2008, 09:24 AM

Oh come on Sarge - Why would you interrupt his little tirade with facts ... thats no fun.

View Poll Results: Who Won and what are your thoughts
McCain hands down or maybe not so much but he won	1	5.00%
Obama smoked him	15	75.00%
Toss up, I have no frigging idea. Who is running?	1	5.00%
Tossed salad.	3	15.00%
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

10-15-2008, 11:18 PM	#18
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	No, just stupid. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-16-2008, 08:38 AM	#24
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I certainly do. The man has class, whereas McCain comes across as a thug. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-16-2008, 08:38 AM	#25
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I thought I was watching Sesame Street. Joe the Plumber. "These are the people in your neighborhood, in your neighborhood..." I was squirming FOR McCain, every time he got pissy, rolled his eyes, snorted, and started breathing heavily and sighing. I thought he was melting before my very eyes. I was thinking "hold on there, John...wait, is your finger near the proverbial button?" I like the fact that the person who will be representing our country can hold a conversation with class and dignity, and not be flustered when engaged in debate. Are these not important traits for a president? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

10-16-2008, 08:45 AM	#27
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	I'd smoke cigars and drink scotch with him. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

10-16-2008, 07:23 AM	#21
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I think McCain only said "My Friends" twice last night. Somebody must have talked to him about it.

10-16-2008, 08:28 AM	#23
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I think it would be a big mistake for Obama to get down and dirty. Right now he is doing things differently and people seem to appreciate it.

10-16-2008, 08:43 AM	#26
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Yehbut...would you want to have a beer with him? I wouldn't. I'd much pefer a bottle of wine.

10-16-2008, 08:50 AM	#28
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	Radar, You need to check you facts. I've noticed many of your posts are filled with incorrect information. The Senate Ethics Committee determined that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly.

10-16-2008, 09:12 AM	#29
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	There aren't many politicians I'd want to have a drink with. Unless they were paying of course, and then - have at it! Except Sinn Fein of course. There isn't a brewery big enough to provide enough beer to get me to sit down with them. I never really forgave Clinton for shaking Gerry Adam's hand. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

10-16-2008, 09:24 AM	#30
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Oh come on Sarge - Why would you interrupt his little tirade with facts ... thats no fun. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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