8/7/2003: Haunting mannequins photographed

Undertoad · 08-07-2003, 04:53 PM

Cattle Call (c) Barbara Abel 1995

Photographer Barbara Abel apparently found a treasure trove of antique wax mannequins, and the Tragic Beauties section of her website is a gallery of the results. They're haunting because, well, let me take the words from the site itself:

Unlike the frozen, lifeless mannequins of today, these European busts were posed for, many at the turn of the century, by flesh and blood women. Made with human hair, each strand inserted with a hot needle, teeth made from denture material, glass eyes, and realistic expressions, these figures possess a haunting, enigmatic aura."

Yes indeed, and check out the page for more examples. Fine work. Hat tip to Slithy Tove for noticing this and passing it along.

Emrikol · 08-07-2003, 04:59 PM

reminds me of this haunted ebay painting. I don't know much why, but it does. I think I'm just a little frayed at the edges, since its almost quitting time for the day and all.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-07-2003, 06:38 PM

Great find,UT. Some of the mannequins look like they are obviously much newer but the old ones are haunting. Like real people, most are one detail short of beautiful.

Emrikol, that painting was ok until I clicked on the closeup of the boy and then it struck me. That's George W. Bush!

Emrikol · 08-07-2003, 07:21 PM

Wow! That's amazing! I think you're right.

I think we need to do some testing to find out:
here we have a photo of both the painting in question (left) and a young Dubya (middle).
If we desaturate the painting, and take the picture of Bush, and overlay it with a 50% alpha blend, we can see that they match up quite well. If the picture of young George was better (if he were facing straight foreward and wasn't smiling) then I am sure that it would match up.

Leah · 08-07-2003, 08:27 PM

spooky, but some of those mannequins look like old primary school teachers I had.

The resemblance between Bush and the boy in the picture do look alike.

Elspode · 08-07-2003, 11:04 PM

The mannequins are *awesome*. What a terrific photo score, UT.

Tobiasly · 08-08-2003, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
Unlike the frozen, lifeless mannequins of today...

Not all mannequins of today are frozen and lifeless!
http://www.realdoll.com/intro.html

chrisinhouston · 08-08-2003, 08:05 AM

The only thing I can't figure out is that all of the lovely ladies look so turn of the century but how in the heck did Mr. Spock get in this group? Was it that episode where they chase Dr. McCoy back in time?

xoxoxoBruce · 08-08-2003, 04:00 PM

There was a couple on that page that looked like the 70's. I think that's when they started puting nipples on mannequins.

warch · 08-08-2003, 06:33 PM

I love the variety in their faces. I think about the women (and men) who have plastic surgery to remove the bump on a nose, or trim a chin, or dental work to create unreal teeth. Creating a highly forgetable perfect face. What a loss of individuality.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-08-2003, 06:57 PM

Well put Warch.

I said one detail short of beautiful when I should have said one detail short of forgettable.

ndetroit · 08-09-2003, 12:53 PM

and yet, all the "psychology of beauty and attraction" research seems to point to the fact that "perfectly average" is the most appealing facial and body type..

IE: if you take a composite of 4 female faces, it will be more beautiful than the average person. If you take a composite of 8, it will be even more beautiful, and so on, etc.. And furthermore, if you take that AVERAGED face, and then exaggerate the sex-based features of it (ie: make it more "womanly" or "manly" it becomes further attractive..

I remember that discover had this sort of haunting face on its cover a few years back, it was a composite of a few thousand female faces.. I couldn't find it, but did find this link, which was a pretty neat read:

http://www.discover.com/feb_00/featbeauty.html

I particularly like this quote:

Halle Berry's flawless skin may rivet moviegoers because, at some deep level, it persuades us that she is parasite-free and consequently good mating material.

tee hee.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-09-2003, 02:59 PM

Interesting Ndetroit but then how do you explain Julia Roberts or Sophia Loren or ......Me?

Bitmap · 08-09-2003, 05:29 PM

the one in the middle looks like the girl (Rory; Alexis Bledel) from Gilmore Girls:

spooky (*shudders*)

Uryoces · 08-09-2003, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Interesting Ndetroit but then how do you explain Julia Roberts or Sophia Loren or ......Me?

Bruce, you are a modern art masterpiece!

It was the gamma-radiation experiment...

08-07-2003, 04:53 PM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	8/7/2003: Haunting mannequins photographed <b><i>Cattle Call</i></b> (c) Barbara Abel 1995 Photographer Barbara Abel apparently found a treasure trove of antique wax mannequins, and the Tragic Beauties section of her website is a gallery of the results. They're haunting because, well, let me take the words from the site itself: Unlike the frozen, lifeless mannequins of today, these European busts were posed for, many at the turn of the century, by flesh and blood women. Made with human hair, each strand inserted with a hot needle, teeth made from denture material, glass eyes, and realistic expressions, these figures possess a haunting, enigmatic aura." Yes indeed, and check out the page for more examples. Fine work. Hat tip to Slithy Tove for noticing this and passing it along.

08-07-2003, 04:59 PM	#2
Emrikol Compatriot-at-Arms Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	Who ya gonna call? reminds me of this haunted ebay painting. I don't know much why, but it does. I think I'm just a little frayed at the edges, since its almost quitting time for the day and all.

08-07-2003, 06:38 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Great find,UT. Some of the mannequins look like they are obviously much newer but the old ones are haunting. Like real people, most are one detail short of beautiful. Emrikol, that painting was ok until I clicked on the closeup of the boy and then it struck me. That's George W. Bush! __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-07-2003, 07:21 PM	#4
Emrikol Compatriot-at-Arms Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	too much time on my hands Wow! That's amazing! I think you're right. I think we need to do some testing to find out: here we have a photo of both the painting in question (left) and a young Dubya (middle). If we desaturate the painting, and take the picture of Bush, and overlay it with a 50% alpha blend, we can see that they match up quite well. If the picture of young George was better (if he were facing straight foreward and wasn't smiling) then I am sure that it would match up.

08-07-2003, 11:04 PM	#6
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	The mannequins are awesome. What a terrific photo score, UT. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

08-07-2003, 08:27 PM	#5
Leah Love my Heffalumps Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia (best place in the world) Posts: 346	spooky, but some of those mannequins look like old primary school teachers I had. The resemblance between Bush and the boy in the picture do look alike.

08-08-2003, 08:05 AM	#8
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	The only thing I can't figure out is that all of the lovely ladies look so turn of the century but how in the heck did Mr. Spock get in this group? Was it that episode where they chase Dr. McCoy back in time? Attached Images

08-08-2003, 04:00 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	There was a couple on that page that looked like the 70's. I think that's when they started puting nipples on mannequins. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-08-2003, 06:33 PM	#10
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	I love the variety in their faces. I think about the women (and men) who have plastic surgery to remove the bump on a nose, or trim a chin, or dental work to create unreal teeth. Creating a highly forgetable perfect face. What a loss of individuality.

08-08-2003, 06:57 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Well put Warch. I said one detail short of beautiful when I should have said one detail short of forgettable. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-09-2003, 12:53 PM	#12
ndetroit Master Locutor Join Date: May 2001 Location: vancouver Posts: 158	and yet, all the "psychology of beauty and attraction" research seems to point to the fact that "perfectly average" is the most appealing facial and body type.. IE: if you take a composite of 4 female faces, it will be more beautiful than the average person. If you take a composite of 8, it will be even more beautiful, and so on, etc.. And furthermore, if you take that AVERAGED face, and then exaggerate the sex-based features of it (ie: make it more "womanly" or "manly" it becomes further attractive.. I remember that discover had this sort of haunting face on its cover a few years back, it was a composite of a few thousand female faces.. I couldn't find it, but did find this link, which was a pretty neat read: http://www.discover.com/feb_00/featbeauty.html I particularly like this quote: Halle Berry's flawless skin may rivet moviegoers because, at some deep level, it persuades us that she is parasite-free and consequently good mating material. tee hee.

08-09-2003, 02:59 PM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Interesting Ndetroit but then how do you explain Julia Roberts or Sophia Loren or ......Me? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-09-2003, 05:29 PM	#14
Bitmap Look who thinks he's clever Dan. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Washington DC Metro Area. Fairfax city Posts: 226	the one in the middle looks like the girl (Rory; Alexis Bledel) from Gilmore Girls:<BR> spooky (shudders)

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