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Old 02-05-2009, 09:24 AM   #1
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Yeah? So we have two contradictory quotes. How can we tell what the official position of Hamas is? And by official, I mean what they will do not what they say. These politicians should never be trusted.

Hamas is most likely littered with scattered views. Some will be willing to accept 1967 borders, some will never accept Israel as a state. Which side has the most power in the end is which matters.
Those with the most guns makes those decisions. Hamas has made that point quite evident. Peace with Israel is not one of thier goals. How to get the Israelis to stop bombing the hell out of them is a short term goal IMHO. And they will say any thing to the international press to do it. Other than that my expectations for them to seek a unified peace plan is very low to non-existant.
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Old 02-06-2009, 09:02 AM   #2
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Those with the most guns makes those decisions. Hamas has made that point quite evident. Peace with Israel is not one of thier goals. How to get the Israelis to stop bombing the hell out of them is a short term goal IMHO. And they will say any thing to the international press to do it. Other than that my expectations for them to seek a unified peace plan is very low to non-existant.
And peace with Palestine is obviously not one of Israel's goal either.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:00 AM   #3
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And peace with Palestine is obviously not one of Israel's goal either.
ok I'll bite - Why do you say that?
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Old 02-06-2009, 08:10 PM   #4
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ok I'll bite - Why do you say that?
Because. They consistently do things that are not in the spirit of peace. Israel has broken ceasefires as much as Hamas has. Israelis bulldozed Palestinian houses and claimed the land for themselves so they could build more settlements. Israelis arrest Palestinians and put them in camps. They block food. They make it almost impossible for Palestinians to move around. etc etc etc.

As I've said before, both sides are at fault. We really need to get out of it (stop funding Israel) and let them solve it on their own, with their own money. Either that, or force Israel to be more reasonable.
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