Wii or Wii not? - Page 2

sweetwater · 03-31-2009, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

Is the Wii for $249 and the Wii fit for $89 a good deal?

I think that's an average price. Rumors are out about a Wii II, but they are said to be only rumors so there is little hope they'll go down much. I just bought a new game that will let me "fly" WWII aircraft, including a Mustang (my favorite), and I'd have no problem with the price for the Wii because I know how much fun I'll have with it. zoooooooooom! rat-a-tat-pow!

lookout123 · 03-31-2009, 11:45 AM

We've got Wi and Wii fit. It is a lot of fun for short periods of time and then everyone gets bored and it doesn't come out for a couple months again. If you do get the Wii fit also buy Jillian's (The biggest loser) Workout game. It's fun just to watch people do it.

Bullitt · 03-31-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

We've got Wi and Wii fit. It is a lot of fun for short periods of time and then everyone gets bored and it doesn't come out for a couple months again.

That's what I'm hearing from many of my buddies who are into gaming. It's more of a toy than a real video game machine, especially if you're into games that have graphics above what the Wii is capable of (it's stuck in 2003). It is comparable to games for the iPhone, there's only so much you can do with just a touch screen on that, and with the Wii there's only so many applications for motion control. So that combined with the limited selection of decent games means it mostly sits unused, only played in spurts when nostalgia for a Zelda/Metroid/Mario game comes up. And even then, you're wasting a good chunk of change on the Wii and it's motion controls if you're just into legacy games like those titles, esp. if it's a Gamecube title because you're forced to use the old Gamecube controller for those. Better off buying a Gamecube in that case, cheaper and near equal graphical capabilities. A great majority of quality new games are coming to the Xbox360/PS3/PC, the Wii is being propped up by cultural and media hype only to be used infrequently by a large number of those who buy it in favor of other systems.

from a gamer.

Flint · 03-31-2009, 12:22 PM

We're not gamers.

I disagree that better graphics make better games. I rate playability as the only item that counts, so I question that "decent games" and "quality games" means the same thing to you as it does to me. . . . Thank you for your input.

glatt · 03-31-2009, 12:25 PM

I don't think the Wii is meant to appeal to gamers. I think it's meant to appeal to families. Everyone knows that the graphics are lame. Wii isn't about the graphics.

We just got Wii fit a week ago and are having a lot of fun with that. It gets you off the couch.

dar512 · 03-31-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

We're not gamers.

I disagree that better graphics make better games. I rate playability as the only item that counts, so I question that "decent games" and "quality games" means the same thing to you as it does to me. . . . Thank you for your input.

I think a lot of people are agreeing with you, Flint.

Look at the adoption of the Nintendo DS over the PSP. The PSP has far better graphics, but the Nintendo DS has far greater adoption numbers.

I've got both, but it's sad how few good games are coming out for the PSP.

Bullitt · 03-31-2009, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flint

We're not gamers.

I disagree that better graphics make better games. I rate playability as the only item that counts, so I question that "decent games" and "quality games" means the same thing to you as it does to me. . . . Thank you for your input.

Quote where I said you were bud.

I never said better graphics alone make better games.
I'm going by industry reviews of games per console in saying that "decent games" and "quality games" are lacking for the Wii.

No good graphics don't always equal good games. I still play my old Sega Genesis and Nintendo 64 because of something called "replay value" in some of the games for those systems. Those two systems are way behind the current curve of game graphics. My point is that the motion controls that the Wii is most famous for only carry it so far because of its inherent limitations. The percentage of poorly rated games per console is heavily tilted towards the Wii as well. Even my non "gamer" friends who own the system were all excited and giddy about it for starters, [stereotypical high-pitched girl voice]OMG Wii tennis is soo fun!, then after a few months it just sits or is put away and forgotten about. All in all it's just not worth the $ when you look at other options. It's not entirely about the graphics since the long term playing experience is what matters most, and the Wii lacks there as well.

From a list of the top selling games per platform and their MetaCritic.com scores in an effort to find out which console has the best quality games:

"The results are as follows

Wii - Average 75.55%
PS3 - Average 81.44%
Xbox 360 - Average 87.375%

But that is only the rating of the top 10 sellers which really is not a fair rating. What really is required is a comparison over the consoles entire catalogue.

Wii:
+80% = 6 titles to choose from
+90% = 2 titles to choose from
PS3
+80% = 18 titles to choose from
+90% = 1 title to choose from
X360
+80% = 58 titles to choose from
+90% = 7 titles to choose from"

But hey if you find it fun go for it and be careful not to accidentally chuck your controller into the tv. Its your money, you can waste it however you want

Flint · 03-31-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote where I said you said I was.

Bullitt · 03-31-2009, 01:09 PM

I did sweetie pie, see my previous post. Take your time, it's easier to understand what you read when you go slow.

Flint · 03-31-2009, 01:16 PM

No.

Bullitt · 03-31-2009, 01:17 PM

No?

lookout123 · 03-31-2009, 01:24 PM

Time out both of you. If you keep it up you'll get no juice at lunch.

anyway, we are not a family of gamers, either. I like the old school graphics. We have PS2 and Wii and maybe 10 games between the two. The Wii is fun if you have time to play it. The tennis game was amusing until LL figured out he could totally screw me by barely moving his controller thus preventing me from ever having the chance to actually hit the ball. Same with baseball. that family laughed for quite awhile at the Wii fit stuff but then it lost it's novelty. In all honesty I probably would veto Mrs L's purchase if I had to do it again.

What I don't like is the Wiimotes aren't set up to just respond exactly with your motions. Example: In the Star Wars game you use a Wiimote to fight with your lightsaber. Seems pretty straightforward, right? You're using a Wiimote in place of a lightsaber so your actions should match what you seen on the screen. Unfortunately you have to learn a complex set of twitches, turns, and button pushing combinations to actually do anything. It is just like having a normal controller, but less intuitive.

All that being said, the bowling, baseball, tennis, golf, and Wii Fit functions can be a lot of fun.

Flint · 03-31-2009, 02:11 PM

How 'bout I accidentally chuck the controller at your ƒuckin' face? Huh?

BRING IT ON GAMEBOY

Bullitt · 03-31-2009, 03:00 PM

Bring it nanny pants!
My weapon of choice: the original Xbox controller!

Flint · 04-01-2009, 09:21 AM

Okay, you wiin.

03-31-2009, 11:45 AM	#17
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	We've got Wi and Wii fit. It is a lot of fun for short periods of time and then everyone gets bored and it doesn't come out for a couple months again. If you do get the Wii fit also buy Jillian's (The biggest loser) Workout game. It's fun just to watch people do it. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

03-31-2009, 12:22 PM	#19
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	We're not gamers. I disagree that better graphics make better games. I rate playability as the only item that counts, so I question that "decent games" and "quality games" means the same thing to you as it does to me. . . . Thank you for your input. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-31-2009, 12:52 PM	#23
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Quote where I said you said I was. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-31-2009, 01:09 PM	#24
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	I did sweetie pie, see my previous post. Take your time, it's easier to understand what you read when you go slow. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass. Last edited by Bullitt; 03-31-2009 at 01:16 PM.

03-31-2009, 01:16 PM	#25
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	No. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-31-2009, 12:25 PM	#20
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I don't think the Wii is meant to appeal to gamers. I think it's meant to appeal to families. Everyone knows that the graphics are lame. Wii isn't about the graphics. We just got Wii fit a week ago and are having a lot of fun with that. It gets you off the couch.

03-31-2009, 01:17 PM	#26
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	No? __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

03-31-2009, 01:24 PM	#27
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	Time out both of you. If you keep it up you'll get no juice at lunch. anyway, we are not a family of gamers, either. I like the old school graphics. We have PS2 and Wii and maybe 10 games between the two. The Wii is fun if you have time to play it. The tennis game was amusing until LL figured out he could totally screw me by barely moving his controller thus preventing me from ever having the chance to actually hit the ball. Same with baseball. that family laughed for quite awhile at the Wii fit stuff but then it lost it's novelty. In all honesty I probably would veto Mrs L's purchase if I had to do it again. What I don't like is the Wiimotes aren't set up to just respond exactly with your motions. Example: In the Star Wars game you use a Wiimote to fight with your lightsaber. Seems pretty straightforward, right? You're using a Wiimote in place of a lightsaber so your actions should match what you seen on the screen. Unfortunately you have to learn a complex set of twitches, turns, and button pushing combinations to actually do anything. It is just like having a normal controller, but less intuitive. All that being said, the bowling, baseball, tennis, golf, and Wii Fit functions can be a lot of fun. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

03-31-2009, 02:11 PM	#28
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	How 'bout I accidentally chuck the controller at your ƒuckin' face? Huh? BRING IT ON GAMEBOY __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

03-31-2009, 03:00 PM	#29
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	Bring it nanny pants! My weapon of choice: the original Xbox controller! __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

04-01-2009, 09:21 AM	#30
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Okay, you wiin. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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