What do you hear when people say freedom?

[Queen of the Ryche]

Thank you Bruce. My opinion of your opinion of Henry's opinion of my opinion is that I like your opinion.

K great Dana. You are an extremely bright woman. I think I used to be, but real life has burned away the educated section of brain cells. It's all been reduced to practicality.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Queen of the Ryche

K great Dana. You are an extremely bright woman.

Bah, she's just a burned out old hippie.

[henry quirk]

"You will not change my opinion of you sir, no matter how hard you try. I still see you as a bitter Academic with a sad sour view of the world and those around you. That is all."


you misunderstand, queenie: i don't give a flip of your opinion about 'me'...i'm simply defending what i posted (my words and the meanings of those words) against misinterpretation

think of 'me' whatever you like

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"i think , what you post is so fucking stupid"


and i, dear whip, think you're a fucking idiot: pedestrian, unoriginal, boring

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"All I was trying to say to Henry is BACK THE F OFF"


if you, queenie, can comment 'freely' about my posts and -- in the process -- characterize me as 'a bitter Academic' (which as far as i can see, has no relevance at all to the substance of my posts in this thread), then i can continue to post what i like, as i like, till a mod takes away the privilege

it seems what's good for the goose is indeed good for the gander...

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"I was just sooooo tired of him shouting in incomplete sentneces from his soapbox about how right he is."


but queenie: the whole point of philosophy (which is what this sub-forum is all about) is the on-going debate of ideas...this is not the 'nothingland', this is 'philosophy'

my 'shouting' in this thread, within this forum, is what happens when ideas are debated

seems to me: if you want to 'play nice', 'be nice', there are plenty of other sub-forums and threads to meander 'round in

you'll note: i'm mostly confined to a handful of threads, a smattering of sub-forums...mainly, because so many others (many where you are quite prominent, i must add) are useless ego strokes and vehicles for virtual and public flirtations

do i walk through, stick my nose in, and comment about how vapid you are there and there and there?

no: i do not

i leave you to your idiocies and feel no compulsion to 'attention seek' at your expense

you, however, haven't addressed anything i've written in this thread other than to essentially say, 'henry makes me 'feel bad'!

now: i can't stop you or anyone from doing that...but, then: you can't stop me either...you can't stop me from being, as you say, bitter and angry, and you can't stop me from carrying on an act of philosophical debate with anyone who cares to engage me

(and when is someone gonna do that? there's lots of poo-pooing, but no real attempts at refutation)

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"in the Cellar you have "freedom" to post your crap"


a 'freedom' given to you, bruce, by another (the owner and mods allowing your membership, allowing you to post without editing) is not a 'freedom' in the sense of being 'free' of anything

it's privilege: pure and simple

as for my 'crap': the owner/mods can pull the plug on me any time...not a dammed thing i can do about it

that i'm still here says a lot about the owner/mods tolerance for different views, or, perhaps it says something for the owner/mods AGREEING with me

hmmm...

regardless of owner/mods motivation(s): i'm here, you're here, we're all HERE only because the guy/gal with the power allows it...this is not 'freedom', this -- again -- is privilege

to be redundant (HA!): if you rely on another to provide or secure a 'right' or 'freedom' for you then you have no 'right' or 'freedom' only a privilege

the owner/mods give; the owner/ mods taketh away...

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Bah, she's just a burned out old manc tart.

Fixed that for ya


[eta] one man's vapidity is another man's light-heartedness. Frivolity and whimsy have their place. Personally, I spend way more time posting frivolous 'vapid' stuff than anything of any weight. Which is nice. I think.