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Old 05-06-2009, 10:33 AM   #1
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Not you, your socialist/collectivist ideas/non-stop slobbering on the Messiah.

Which ones? Yeah I know, please cite. I'm working 7 days now and don't have time to properly add to many of these irritating posts.
non-stop slobbering on the messiah? Clearly you have me confused with someone else...
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Old 05-06-2009, 11:08 PM   #2
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non-stop slobbering on the messiah? Clearly you have me confused with someone else...
Frankly, m'dear, no he doesn't. You sound like this textbook example of someone with leftist opinions only -- a stereotype Secular-Progressive, completely politically correct, and completely unversed in the merits of competing views. Thus you believe you are both right and moral. There are those of us who aren't so sure of either.
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:26 AM   #3
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Thus you believe you are both right and moral. There are those of us who aren't so sure of either.
About Sugar, or about yourself?
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:07 AM   #4
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Frankly, m'dear, no he doesn't. You sound like this textbook example of someone with leftist opinions only -- a stereotype Secular-Progressive, completely politically correct, and completely unversed in the merits of competing views. Thus you believe you are both right and moral. There are those of us who aren't so sure of either.
You sir, are the one who believes without a doubt that you are always right and on the side of good, as defined by your religious beliefs. Your attitude against anyone with leftist ideals is that you are the smarter one and they the lowly idiot. But... you are sadly misguided.

I am not always politically correct. I think we have gone way overboard with the political correctness. It's downright silly sometimes. That doesn't mean I think we should go back to the way we were before, because I don't. Some sensitivity is necessary when trying look at all sides of a situation. Empathy is important. Understanding is important. That doesn't mean it should rule out common sense. You on the right seem to think common courtesy is stupid, and manners are a bad thing, but they are not.

I have had my mind changed before numerous times, on issues I believed in deeply, because I had an open mind and I was willing to listen to another point of view. I cannot imagine you ever changing your mind about anything, especially when confronted by someone on the left.

And ftr, I have voted for republicans, democrats, and independents, even though I fall far on the left side of the political spectrum, so please don't try to figure out my political tendencies, because your brain would explode; it doesn't have the complexity to look objectively at two opposing views, and see where both are right, and both are wrong.
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Old 05-29-2009, 09:47 PM   #5
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You sir, are the one who believes without a doubt that you are always right and on the side of good, as defined by your religious beliefs. Your attitude against anyone with leftist ideals is that you are the smarter one and they the lowly idiot. But... you are sadly misguided.
Looking at the kind of thing presented by those loudest in opposition to me, I'd say I'm not misguided one bit. Nor can you actually show misguidedness, sad or happy, on my part. Just saying is not proving.

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I am not always politically correct. I think we have gone way overboard with the political correctness. It's downright silly sometimes. That doesn't mean I think we should go back to the way we were before, because I don't.
Worthy. And PC is even worse than "silly sometimes." It's a tyranny of non-think, a tyranny over the minds of men. Like all tyrannies, it should be abolished.

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You on the right seem to think common courtesy is stupid, and manners are a bad thing, but they are not.
This attitude is to be found only among the Wrong Right, not the conservatives, who hang onto their manners pretty well, even in the face of routine provocation from the immature sorts that make up the Left.

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I have had my mind changed before numerous times, on issues I believed in deeply, because I had an open mind and I was willing to listen to another point of view. I cannot imagine you ever changing your mind about anything, especially when confronted by someone on the left.
Then you're not doing all that well at it, are you? I once was antigun, particularly anti-handgun. I'm not, now.

I do have a good understanding of those permanent things that are good. You are trying, as several here have to nil result, to find evil where it is not -- in the heart of Urbane Guerrilla.

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. . . so please don't try to figure out my political tendencies, because your brain would explode; it doesn't have the complexity to look objectively at two opposing views, and see where both are right, and both are wrong.
M'dear, you are sadly misguided here: you cannot explode my brain, however hard you may try. I am probably more objective than you are: I've seen more of it. I can figure you out and I routinely do. When I catch you doing something good, I'll mention it; same goes for doing something bad. I can tell genuine sophistication from the specious, and grounding in the good from grounding in the bad.

Having looked over the Left for a couple of decades, and compared them with the Right -- yeah, the Left is mostly full of shit.
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