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Old 06-13-2009, 12:26 PM   #1
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Advertising and profit are corrupting forces on the industry. But that's all there is in the alternative industry
Well that and thousands of years of use... of trial and error. And you don't see much advertising... or profit really, when you compare to mainstream big pharma medicine.

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The fact that some clinical trials are botched is not a good reason to skip them altogether.
Hey that's fine, make your choices. And mind your own business when it comes to mine ok? Because I might want to try an herbal tea before I get an expensive prescription... or I might try a dab of clove oil before I take a bunch of narcotics etc etc... Placebo effect? Ok fine, I'll take the cheapest/easiest one thanks.

edit: FYI: Botched and fabricated mean two different things.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:39 PM   #2
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...or I might try a dab of clove oil before I take a bunch of narcotics...
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:40 PM   #3
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Might, I said, might... I want to keep my options open.
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:16 PM   #4
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Might, I said, might... I want to keep my options open.
*wipes eyes*

well, okay then. I mean, you could get the narcotics and just...oh, I don't know, have them around in case someone you knew needed them or something like that.

no biggie. Just, you know, narcotics.
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Old 06-13-2009, 06:00 PM   #5
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Well that and thousands of years of use... of trial and error.
Which can't seem to be duplicated in a double blind study.
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And you don't see much advertising... or profit really, when you compare to mainstream big pharma medicine.
It's pure profit. They have no R&D costs, and minimal manufacturing costs. And some of them get plenty of advertising. Head-On, Airborne, and Enzyte come to mind.
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Old 06-13-2009, 06:13 PM   #6
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Which can't seem to be duplicated in a double blind study.
What, specifically, are you talking about?

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Head-On, Airborne, and Enzyte come to mind
Yeah I don't know anything about these products (although I've had a medical professional who frequents this board recommend Zicam based on experience, I haven't actually tried it).
I had more herbal/traditional remedies in mind when talking about "alternative"... you know, the stuff "modern medicine" comes from... although ineffective and advertised would also describe main-stream over the counter cough medicine.
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Old 06-14-2009, 11:49 AM   #7
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What, specifically, are you talking about?
Anything except the few exceptions noted in the article.
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I had more herbal/traditional remedies in mind when talking about "alternative"... you know, the stuff "modern medicine" comes from...
When an herbal remedy is tested and works, it becomes part of modern medicine. If it isn't tested, or is tested and doesn't work, it remains "alternative". If the ginger capsules hold up to further testing, they'll become as much part of modern medicine as aspirin. But all of the remedies that failed testing will remain on the herbal remedy aisle at Whole Foods.
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Old 06-14-2009, 05:29 PM   #8
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When an herbal remedy is tested and works, it becomes part of modern medicine.
Orly?

I disagree with you HM. I'm sure you're devastated.
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