The Obamanation

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

As I said, our foreign policy should recognize it and acknowledge as long as it does not hurt our national interests or national security.

It might even help. We dont live in a vacuum.

It should be a low priority. I doubt the Chinese, Russians, Indian's, Iranians, North Koreans, Israeli's, or Germans really care if we like them or not when they set international policy.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

It should be a low priority. I doubt the Chinese, Russians, Indian's, Iranians, North Koreans, Israeli's, or Germans really care if we like them or not when they set international policy.

When John Bolton (AEI fellow) says "bomb Iran now", I dont think that is in our best interest. Sitting down with Iran (along with the other interested parties) one time makes more sense to me.

When Lynn Cheney (AEI fellow) said "we didnt torture or abuse detainees", I dont think that is in our best interest. Ending the policy of "enhanced interrogations" makes more sense to me.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

When John Bolton (AEI fellow) says "bomb Iran now", I dont think that is in our best interest.

Neither do I.

Sitting down with Iran (along with the other interested parties) one first makes more sense to me.

Not when they are killing US troops in Iraq. No way.

When Lynn Cheney (AWI fellow) said "we didnt torture detainees", I dont think that is in our best interest.

I don't think what Lynn Cheney or any Cheney says is important.

Ending the policy of "enhanced interrogations" makes more sense to me.

I don't that has been adequately defined. That is Liberal speak.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Not when they are killing US troops in Iraq. No way.

It is very much like Nixon going to China at the same time as the Chinese were supporting the North Vietnamese and killing US troops.

You negotiate with adversaries, not friends.

I don't think what Lynn Cheney or any Cheney says is important

It is only important in the sense that it is seen and heard around the world, feeding negative perceptions.

I don't that has been adequately defined. That is Liberal speak.

It is US law and international treaty obligations...and again, it feeds those negative perceptions.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

It is very much like Nixon going to China at the same time as the Chinese were supporting the North Vietnamese and killing US troops.

Support that all you want. It is still wrong and if he does he will risk re-election.

You negotiate with adversaries, not friends.

Really? I thought that Israel was our friend, at least that is what they and the Jewish Lobby tell us.

It is only important in the sense that it is seen and heard around the world, feeding negative perceptions.

Damm, then you should be worried about what Biden has said in the last year or so.

It is US law and international treaty obligations...and again, it feeds those negative perceptions.

I have always said that the US population never had what it took to finish The WOT, if you don't fight them on their terms at a time of your choosing you will lose. I am not really concerned with those negative perceptions if they serve our well being and safety in the long run. Effective international policy is not conducted worrying about what your adversaries or others think about you.