So, Obama has been president for 8 months, and - Page 3

TheMercenary · 09-24-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Wow links from obama-truth.blogspot.com and whitehouse.gov that are defending the president - What wonderful unbiased information - Thanks radar.

henry quirk · 09-24-2009, 02:09 PM

It's premature to crow about these accomplishments.

For one: many (perhaps all) fall into the camp of 'upcoming', as in 'the results of this or that are upcoming'.

Signing, proposing, implementing: these sound good but none speak to the actual end points, which could be deplorable.

For another: it's a mistake to assume that everyone is in favor of any or all of the listed accomplishments.

Bottom line: the lists of #'s 25 and 26 aren't 'proof' of anything.

Shawnee123 · 09-24-2009, 02:20 PM

These steps are still steps forward, instead of the previous slipping and sliding into hell, oblivion, and unending poverty and chaos.

So yes, it's all relative: I pick relative sanity over relative hell.

Radar · 09-24-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Wow links from obama-truth.blogspot.com and whitehouse.gov that are defending the president - What wonderful unbiased information - Thanks radar.

When you can't deny the facts, attack the source? Typical.

henry quirk · 09-24-2009, 02:27 PM

"These steps are still steps forward, instead of the previous slipping and sliding into hell, oblivion, and unending poverty and chaos."

It's a matter of perspective. For me, and only me, the prices quoted by left or right are too high.

#

"So yes, it's all relative: I pick relative sanity over relative hell."

Again: a matter of perspective. As I see it, sanity isn't a commodity, and, hell for some is home for others...

*shrug*

Shawnee123 · 09-24-2009, 02:30 PM

So, henry, what do you propose? You've made it clear you think neither party is competent. If you could choose how it should work, within the realms of reality (no, you do NOT get to be king)

what would you choose? How would it work? What is the best outcome, the worst?

TGRR · 09-24-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

...apparently not.

Yeah, you're right.

Anyway, on to Henry's post: Why should we improve things, vis-a-vis the two party system? Things are plenty funny the way things are now.

henry quirk · 09-24-2009, 02:39 PM

I have no plan to save the world, the country, or you.

Look at my signature line. It says everything and anything you want to know about what I propose.

Things are what they are. I have no interest in revolution.

I do what I always do: navigate under, around, and though what 'is'.

Repubs, Dems, Commies, Libs, Cons, Libertarians, Socialists, Anarchists, Greens, Christians, Atheists, and on and on...as religions: they all lack.

#

"What is the best outcome, the worst?"

For me: the best outcome is my continuing to live unmolested by anyone who believes he or she owns me in part or as a whole. The worst outcome: prison (but even there, I'm still my own).

Sorry, Shawnee: I can't give you a formula when, for me, none exists.

TGRR · 09-24-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

So yes, it's all relative: I pick relative sanity over relative hell.

This ain't gonna be your century. Just saying.

Shawnee123 · 09-24-2009, 02:43 PM

@ henry:

Well then why do you have any form of opinion about the mediocre president, or the shortcomings of our system?

(I'm not saying you're not entitled to your opinion) but you can't in one breath say that the end results could be deplorable, and outline the reasons why and in the next breath profess all of it means nothing to you and even go so far as to say it's irrelevant to everyone. If it means nothing, why post about it?

TGRR · 09-24-2009, 02:45 PM

Henry, you have to remember that most people still believe the US Government exists.

henry quirk · 09-24-2009, 02:52 PM

"Why should we improve things, vis-a-vis the two party system?"

Do as you like.

Support who and what you like, as you see fit.

My only concern is that I should be 'made' to ‘pay’ for those things and persons.

How you discharge your resources, time, 'self' is entirely your business.

I claim the same for myself.

And yet: this isn't enough, is it?

I am told I must pony up in support of whatever parasitical system is in place.

No.

The only war that matters is the one that's been in place since before the first proto-human fell out of the trees, that being: the war between the individual and everyone else.

*shrug*

###

(((Gentle reader, ignore this little exchange. T responded to S, not me, rendering my comments idiotic. My own fault for cramming everything into one post. Apologies.)))

"This ain't gonna be your century. Just saying."

I can live with that.

Can you?

###

"you can't in one breath say that the end results could be deplorable"

I mean deplorable for all of you who invest yourselves.

Sorry for the confusion.

#

"it's irrelevant to everyone"

Only to me.

#

"If it means nothing, why post about it?"

It's just conversation and debate...why does it have to mean anything?

henry quirk · 09-24-2009, 02:53 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

classicman · 09-24-2009, 02:59 PM

Radar - I attacked nothing, I just noted where the sources used to support your OPINION were from.

Idemosaka · 09-24-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TGRR

Henry, you have to remember that most people still believe the US Government exists.

hehehehe

09-24-2009, 02:09 PM	#32
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	regarding post #'s 25 and 26 It's premature to crow about these accomplishments. For one: many (perhaps all) fall into the camp of 'upcoming', as in 'the results of this or that are upcoming'. Signing, proposing, implementing: these sound good but none speak to the actual end points, which could be deplorable. For another: it's a mistake to assume that everyone is in favor of any or all of the listed accomplishments. Bottom line: the lists of #'s 25 and 26 aren't 'proof' of anything. __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

09-24-2009, 02:20 PM	#33
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	These steps are still steps forward, instead of the previous slipping and sliding into hell, oblivion, and unending poverty and chaos. So yes, it's all relative: I pick relative sanity over relative hell. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

09-24-2009, 02:27 PM	#35
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	;) "These steps are still steps forward, instead of the previous slipping and sliding into hell, oblivion, and unending poverty and chaos." It's a matter of perspective. For me, and only me, the prices quoted by left or right are too high. # "So yes, it's all relative: I pick relative sanity over relative hell." Again: a matter of perspective. As I see it, sanity isn't a commodity, and, hell for some is home for others... shrug __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

09-24-2009, 02:30 PM	#36
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	So, henry, what do you propose? You've made it clear you think neither party is competent. If you could choose how it should work, within the realms of reality (no, you do NOT get to be king) what would you choose? How would it work? What is the best outcome, the worst? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

09-24-2009, 02:39 PM	#38
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	I propose nothing I have no plan to save the world, the country, or you. Look at my signature line. It says everything and anything you want to know about what I propose. Things are what they are. I have no interest in revolution. I do what I always do: navigate under, around, and though what 'is'. Repubs, Dems, Commies, Libs, Cons, Libertarians, Socialists, Anarchists, Greens, Christians, Atheists, and on and on...as religions: they all lack. # "What is the best outcome, the worst?" For me: the best outcome is my continuing to live unmolested by anyone who believes he or she owns me in part or as a whole. The worst outcome: prison (but even there, I'm still my own). Sorry, Shawnee: I can't give you a formula when, for me, none exists. __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

09-24-2009, 02:43 PM	#40
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	@ henry: Well then why do you have any form of opinion about the mediocre president, or the shortcomings of our system? (I'm not saying you're not entitled to your opinion) but you can't in one breath say that the end results could be deplorable, and outline the reasons why and in the next breath profess all of it means nothing to you and even go so far as to say it's irrelevant to everyone. If it means nothing, why post about it? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

09-24-2009, 02:45 PM	#41
TGRR Horrible Bastard Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: High Desert, Arizona Posts: 1,103	Henry, you have to remember that most people still believe the US Government exists. __________________ What can we do to help you stop screaming?

09-24-2009, 02:52 PM	#42
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"Why should we improve things, vis-a-vis the two party system?" Do as you like. Support who and what you like, as you see fit. My only concern is that I should be 'made' to ‘pay’ for those things and persons. How you discharge your resources, time, 'self' is entirely your business. I claim the same for myself. And yet: this isn't enough, is it? I am told I must pony up in support of whatever parasitical system is in place. No. The only war that matters is the one that's been in place since before the first proto-human fell out of the trees, that being: the war between the individual and everyone else. shrug ### (((Gentle reader, ignore this little exchange. T responded to S, not me, rendering my comments idiotic. My own fault for cramming everything into one post. Apologies.))) "This ain't gonna be your century. Just saying." I can live with that. Can you? ### "you can't in one breath say that the end results could be deplorable" I mean deplorable for all of you who invest yourselves. Sorry for the confusion. # "it's irrelevant to everyone" Only to me. # "If it means nothing, why post about it?" It's just conversation and debate...why does it have to mean anything? __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...' Last edited by henry quirk; 09-24-2009 at 03:50 PM. Reason: this poster's stupidity

09-24-2009, 02:53 PM	#43
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	most people still believe the US Government exists HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

09-24-2009, 02:59 PM	#44
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Radar - I attacked nothing, I just noted where the sources used to support your OPINION were from. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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