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[skysidhe]

My point pierce was they originally tried to live in 'harmony' with the land. Nothing is absolute.

Which just reminded me of 'green' technology which attempts to make society become responsible for the earth.

lol sam. ( the part about cats )

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by skysidhe

My point pierce was they originally tried to live in 'harmony' with the land. Nothing is absolute.

That is more of a stereotype then anything. Every culture destroys it environment. It is true that some native populations were much more respectful to the environment then most "Old World" populations, but I think a lot of "natives living in harmony with the Earth" stuff is highly romanticized, especially when you generalize the entire group of American Indians.

Also, my point is not to be picky but to show that populations that live in harmony with the Earth are extremely rare and romanticized. It is also something that would be impossible for a non-hunter gatherer society to achieve. That is why I would stress sustainability over anything.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by W.HI.P

i'm thinking of the cement prison that we've built on top of the pillow that existed
i'm thinking of the waters and air being clean.
to sum it up for ya, my images of hell, is that which i've witnessed in this life on this earth we fantasies is ours.

Originally Posted by skysidhe

ok

I don't think anyone would argue with that and so it is the heart of the matter finally? I apologize for my confusion but this has been a meandering course of contradictions.

Wrong, I will. The reason for all that concrete, is people were tired of wallowing in the mud, you describe an a "pillow".
You wax poetic about unfettered nature, like the world without people would be a giant Maxfield Parrish painting. Bullshit, go camping in the rain.