Impeding changes to our Health Care system

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I don't give a shit about the Republickin plans.

You were the one who raised the republican plan, not me:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

...although I do recall the Republickins introducing a proposal for there to be greater competition in a free market across state lines.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

You were the one who raised the republican plan, not me:

It was antidotal. They are my own thoughts. I could give a shit what the Republickins think as much as I could give a shit about what your scumbag party thinks.

[TheMercenary]

HHS warns of double-digit spike in health premiums
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR (AP) – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON — Eye-popping health insurance premium increases of up to 39 percent are a worrisome sign of the times, the Obama administration said in a report Thursday as it tried to tap public frustration with high costs to revive the stalemated effort to overhaul health care.

Proposed premium increases by WellPoint's Anthem Blue Cross for Californians purchasing their own coverage set off a wave of criticism and forced the company last week to announce a postponement. Now, the Health and Human Services Department says similar pressure on premiums is being felt in at least six other states.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...zoY5gD9DUMH007

To bad the healthcare proposals in front of Congress now will not protect most of us from this type of increase.

[Shawnee123]

Antidotal for what? Is it like a snake bite?

Ohhhhhhhh, anecdotal, perhaps? And, if you COULD give a shit, that means you care. It's the non-shit giving that creates the illusion (or, delusion) of apathy.

Oh gawd I slay me.

[TheMercenary]

No you slayed me! rightlyso

[Happy Monkey]

They're trying to grab as much cash as they can before HCR is enacted, as Brown's election made the final form of the bill much less predictable.

[TheMercenary]

HCR only protects a few sectors of the Insurance from astronomical increases. Everyone else is going to see these increases routinely in the near future.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

HCR only protects a few sectors of the Insurance from astronomical increases. Everyone else is going to see these increases routinely in the near future.

Actually, that is not correct.

Any insurance company wishing to participate in the Exchanges and have access to those 30 million new customers would also have to comply with the same premium review and certification process for their employer-based programs....or the company would not receive approval to be listed in the Exchange

[classicman]

What exactly is the "premium review and certification process" Is it something like what the USPS goes through or something completely new?

Originally Posted by classicman

What exactly is the "premium review and certification process" IS it something like what the USPS goes through or something completely new?

I could tell you what it means..

...but I would like to give Merc the opportunity first..since he "knows" that it wont impact premium increases.

ps. in part, it has to do with premium/admin cost ratios

But come on....Merc knows everything about the CBO, the Recovery Act, Health Care Reform Legilsation...at least he tell us so...repeatedly.

[classicman]

Careful - He'll probably quote you on that and start/reignite another flame war.

Originally Posted by classicman

Careful - He'll probably quote you on that and start/reignite another flame war.

He has flamed for the last year...a tactic to avoid the facts when confronted.

And IMO, while you might not flame as much, you have mastered the tactics of avoidance when confronted with facts as well.

It really is amazing...you guys can just never admit that you might be wrong in any discussion here.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

It really is amazing...you guys can just never admit that you might be wrong in any discussion here.

And neither have you Reflux. But you will end the discussion with "I guess we will just have to disagree" when you are caught in continuing to push the lies and propaganda of this Congress and Administration. You can't defend the deficit spending any longer. The electorate is on to you.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I could tell you what it means..

...but I would like to give Merc the opportunity first..since he "knows" that it wont impact premium increases.

ps. in part, it has to do with premium/admin cost ratios

But come on....Merc knows everything about the CBO, the Recovery Act, Health Care Reform Legilsation...at least he tell us so...repeatedly.

But come on....Reflux knows everything about the CBO, the Recovery Act, Health Care Reform Legilsation...at least he tell us so...repeatedly.

Have you found the section of both the House and Senate bills on the premium review and certification process, including the premium/admin cost/claims ratio?

Care to explain it to classic?