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Old 03-04-2010, 11:36 AM   #1
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Heh, I'm not asking "who is money".

Whose money. I'm trying to get back to my point...since the health care debate started in full force, I've heard a lot about using "our" money (presumably taxpayers) to help people who are just druggies, or alkies, or a slew of other "bad choices." The thought seems to be that "we" shouldn't help those who made a bad choice.

So, questions:

Who draws the line?
Who makes the decision?
Is the money part of doing business, if one likens a national economy to business, aren't there costs that aren't considered typically in the cost of doing business, at least not on a big level, losses the company is willing to take as "cost of doing business" and in deference to the greater good of the action?
Is the greater good unattainable because we are too afraid someone who made a bad choice might get some help?
Is there a statue of limitations on bad choices?
Do you and I and marcia and greg and johnny and billy all agree on what is a bad choice?

So, who decides?
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Old 03-04-2010, 12:01 PM   #2
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So, who decides?
It would work in the fashion as almost any political decision. Special interests groups play tug a war with the government being the rope while the majority of people stand back and watch.
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Old 03-04-2010, 04:06 PM   #3
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Whose money. I'm trying to get back to my point...since the health care debate started in full force, I've heard a lot about using "our" money (presumably taxpayers) to help people who are just druggies, or alkies, or a slew of other "bad choices." The thought seems to be that "we" shouldn't help those who made a bad choice.
No reason to draw any line. Those who make bad choices die earlier. Put less stain on the system. The most expensive people are the healthy people who life on and on and on. Who slowly degrade. I have seen numbers that put the cost of this category as high as 50% of insurance costs.

Insurance means covering everyone. That is what insurance is about when the purpose of insurance is more important than profits. By not having insurance, we are simply dumping the 'stresses' on other parts of the economy - ie through bankruptcies, hospitals (especially children's hospitals) covering the costs that customers cannot pay for, and long term harm to kids because the most stressed families cannot get insurance.

One part of the economy that gets stuck for the bills if we do not change the system - government. Those costs exist no matter who does and does not pay. The idea of insurance is to stabilize what is now an economically and socially destructive way of paying for those costs.

Why are these costs dumped on government? Because we have no working health insurance system. And because the existing system is so beneficial to the upper 50% at the expense or the lower 50%. A large number of that lower 50% are children.
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