Pedophilia Irish Style

[Griff]

Originally Posted by tw

I had thought the Catholic church was one of the Christian denominations that was remaining stronger? However that trend may be dated.

They were/are growing in Africa where the old school nonsense looks progressive. Around here Vatican II, which may have been the Churches last chance to be relevant, is retreating rapidly and some in the Church even blame that liberalization for the peds. The local Church is being reduced to old folks and extremists. The rift in the Church over the health care debate might show the problem more clearly. The nuns (and hospitals) who also embraced Vat II because it was empowering for women, are in support of health care reform seeing it as helpful in their real world Christian service missions. The Catholic Bishops who actually have political power in the Church are in opposition to the reforms. The same split exists in birth control and to a lesser extent abortion. The reformers are the ones who actually perform Christ's work while the opposition exist apart from the world.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Griff

They were/are growing in Africa where the old school nonsense looks progressive. Around here Vatican II, which may have been the Churches last chance to be relevant, is retreating rapidly and some in the Church even blame that liberalization for the peds. The local Church is being reduced to old folks and extremists.

Last numbers I had for the church put average age for a priest at above 60 years old. Just wondering what those numbers are today.

And yes, I have also observed that 'liberalization' blamed for the church's problems. So the church ordered its congregation to change America laws to conform to church doctrine? I cannot think of anything more against American principles.

Again, the question. Are they really that divorced from reality? Do they know what is happening? Or is this their solution?

In corporations, bankruptcy eliminates the problem - fires top management. Shame that the Catholic Church has nothing equivalent.