What's perplexing you today?

TheDaVinciChode · 05-23-2010, 04:58 AM

What's been mildly perplexing me, ever since America decided to "police the world," is, well...

How can freedom, be freedom, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power?
How can democracy be democracy, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power?
How can diplomacy be diplomacy, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power?

Shouldn't these be chosen by the populous, by the country itself? You believe, just because they're under the rule of an oppressive, over-bearing dictatorship, any country has the right to determine what they want, what they need, and how best to give it to them? No, sir, I do not agree, and it perplexes me, to no end, that people actually DO think it's the right course of action.

Much like charity - Now, as much as I think it's a great thing, that larger countries give (I live in England... We're about as charitable as an outside country can get!) I also believe it hinders, rather than helps, the countries wherein charity is given. The more money we throw at them, the less able they will ever be to create their own future. What right do we have, to create it for them? Why should we shape them, in our own image? (Much like we're trying to shape countries like Iraq, and Afghanistan, in our own image, because we disagree with their internal politics, as well as internal culture, despite the fact that we have no actual right, political, or societal, to do so.)

Many countries started out in similar positions to, say, certain African nations... They rose above it, they overcame the nature of their land... And because of it, they became bigger, stronger, better nations. If we keep throwing money, people, and technology, to these under-developed nations, they'll never have the chance, ability, will, or want, to rise above the nature of their land.

Countries around the world (not just America, but all busy-body countries, like my own, too, that are under the false sense of doing a good deed,) need to mind their own countries, and leave others to discover, for themselves, who they are, as a nation, as well as where they wish to stand on a global economic/industrial scale.

There are plenty of poor, destitute people, within our own countries, that are over-looked, because it's easier to look outward, than inward... and this is something that really needs to be re-considered.

I understand the desire to help, to make better the world around us... but what about the world closer to home? How can we help those beyond our borders, when those WITHIN our borders, are ignored, over-looked, and crying for help, themselves?

How can we actually help ANYONE, if they are unwilling to help themselves? (Within and beyond our own national borders.)

Why SHOULD we help countries that are not our own? That is not a selfish, or cruel stand-point... it is a true stand-point. If people, places, and cultures, are not allowed to evolve on their own terms, how will they ever survive? We throw religion at them, we throw the idea of OUR government at them, we throw the ideals of OUR societies at them... how will they evolve, as a nation, as a people, with their own identity, if this is what we do?

We throw money at them, so we feel better about our own lives... not to help them.

I find it to be a despicable tactic, to be honest. We're one step short of simply invading these countries, and enforcing our way of life on them... rather than trying to convince them of our way of life, through "charity," and "trades agreements."

Invading Iraq, Afghanistan... Charitable aid to Africa... The desired end result is the same, and the damage done, too, is the same... It's simply another name for the same process - Assimilation of a culture, to better fit how WE believe a country, or, rather, the entire world, should be.

This was not intended as a rant. Sorry about that, but it just so perplexing, to me, that the world sits by, thinking we're doing GOOD DEEDS, by invading, or throwing money at, countries that we're simply trying to bring in line with our own system of politics, beliefs, etc...

TheMercenary · 05-26-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDaVinciChode

What's been mildly perplexing me, ever since America decided to "police the world," is, well......

I would be quite happy if they cut off all aid to all countries for the next 5 years and see how the "Hopey Changey Thing" works out for them....

No deployments.

No payments to the fucked up UN.

No payments to anyone.

KumbyafuckingAHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....

05-23-2010, 04:58 AM	#1
TheDaVinciChode Chews Food Coming In, And Going Out Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 339	What's been mildly perplexing me, ever since America decided to "police the world," is, well... How can freedom, be freedom, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power? How can democracy be democracy, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power? How can diplomacy be diplomacy, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power? Shouldn't these be chosen by the populous, by the country itself? You believe, just because they're under the rule of an oppressive, over-bearing dictatorship, any country has the right to determine what they want, what they need, and how best to give it to them? No, sir, I do not agree, and it perplexes me, to no end, that people actually DO think it's the right course of action. Much like charity - Now, as much as I think it's a great thing, that larger countries give (I live in England... We're about as charitable as an outside country can get!) I also believe it hinders, rather than helps, the countries wherein charity is given. The more money we throw at them, the less able they will ever be to create their own future. What right do we have, to create it for them? Why should we shape them, in our own image? (Much like we're trying to shape countries like Iraq, and Afghanistan, in our own image, because we disagree with their internal politics, as well as internal culture, despite the fact that we have no actual right, political, or societal, to do so.) Many countries started out in similar positions to, say, certain African nations... They rose above it, they overcame the nature of their land... And because of it, they became bigger, stronger, better nations. If we keep throwing money, people, and technology, to these under-developed nations, they'll never have the chance, ability, will, or want, to rise above the nature of their land. Countries around the world (not just America, but all busy-body countries, like my own, too, that are under the false sense of doing a good deed,) need to mind their own countries, and leave others to discover, for themselves, who they are, as a nation, as well as where they wish to stand on a global economic/industrial scale. There are plenty of poor, destitute people, within our own countries, that are over-looked, because it's easier to look outward, than inward... and this is something that really needs to be re-considered. I understand the desire to help, to make better the world around us... but what about the world closer to home? How can we help those beyond our borders, when those WITHIN our borders, are ignored, over-looked, and crying for help, themselves? How can we actually help ANYONE, if they are unwilling to help themselves? (Within and beyond our own national borders.) Why SHOULD we help countries that are not our own? That is not a selfish, or cruel stand-point... it is a true stand-point. If people, places, and cultures, are not allowed to evolve on their own terms, how will they ever survive? We throw religion at them, we throw the idea of OUR government at them, we throw the ideals of OUR societies at them... how will they evolve, as a nation, as a people, with their own identity, if this is what we do? We throw money at them, so we feel better about our own lives... not to help them. I find it to be a despicable tactic, to be honest. We're one step short of simply invading these countries, and enforcing our way of life on them... rather than trying to convince them of our way of life, through "charity," and "trades agreements." Invading Iraq, Afghanistan... Charitable aid to Africa... The desired end result is the same, and the damage done, too, is the same... It's simply another name for the same process - Assimilation of a culture, to better fit how WE believe a country, or, rather, the entire world, should be. This was not intended as a rant. Sorry about that, but it just so perplexing, to me, that the world sits by, thinking we're doing GOOD DEEDS, by invading, or throwing money at, countries that we're simply trying to bring in line with our own system of politics, beliefs, etc... __________________ "O' Captain! My Captain! Our fearful trip is done;" "The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won;" - Walt Whitman / Leaves Of Grass.

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