Cloud's car stuff - Page 7

lumberjim · 06-03-2010, 08:38 PM

sorry, further investigation reveals that i was talking out my ass.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=172

it's a federal requirement apparently.

Cloud · 06-03-2010, 08:40 PM

I bet the tire manufacturers wanted it taken off. too bad, so sad!

Cloud · 06-09-2010, 03:19 PM

How do you compare/evaluate engines? I get 4/6/8 cylinders; but what about capacity in liters? Is an engine with a bigger capacity always more powerful? And there seems to be lots of other fancy terms I don't understand. I feel like I'm comparing apples to oranges.

I don't want a car with a wimpy little engine. I'd rather get one with a medium powered engine that will get me up my hill and not fade on me as time goes on.

glatt · 06-09-2010, 03:32 PM

Better to compare what the engine does than how big it is.

What is the horsepower? What is the torque? How fast does it accelerate? What is the MPG? Those numbers will tell you how powerful and efficient the engine is.

There are all sorts of tricks to get power out of an engine, and engine size is only one of them. An important one, but not the only one.

Better still is to drive the damn thing and see if it's good enough for you.

Cloud · 06-09-2010, 03:52 PM

Thanks, glatt, I will look at those numbers. But I don't understand exactly what torque is. "Torque" to me means twisted--but what does it mean for an engine?

Of course I will be eventually driving the cars I'm interested in, and I understand that is a good way to evaluate the engines in a practical way (as long as it's a proper test drive and not around the block),

xoxoxoBruce · 06-09-2010, 04:02 PM

Torque is what produces the seat of the pants feeling of acceleration. Horsepower measurements are taken at the maximum the engine will produce and usually it's produced at higher engine RPM than you will ever see in normal driving, which makes it kind of a useless measurement for anything but racing and bragging rights. Torque is what you feel.

lumberjim · 06-10-2010, 05:26 PM

Trading an '07 HHR LT with 38k on it for $8500 right now.

Cloud · 06-10-2010, 05:36 PM

ooh! (makes frustrated face)

lumberjim · 06-10-2010, 05:49 PM

oops! they had to bump it up to $9000... made a mistake on the rebate amount. d'oh!

Undertoad · 06-10-2010, 05:55 PM

[joepescivoice]They fuck you on the trade-in![/joepescivoice]

TheMercenary · 06-10-2010, 07:54 PM

Only buy a VW if the engine is in the back, a 4 banger, and aircooled. The rest of them suck.

Cloud · 06-11-2010, 08:52 PM

I don't think my car aesthetic filter is the same as everyone else's. I like the Element, the HHR, I don' t mind the Rogue and Murano's "smile," and I think the Nissan Juke is really cool looking! It comes out in the fall and looks like a really neat car.

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

but then, why be like everyone else?

jinx · 06-11-2010, 09:10 PM

I agree Cloud.
And I also like the looks of the Juke, and cool that theyre offering a diesel.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-11-2010, 10:36 PM

By all means, please yourself.

Cloud · 06-11-2010, 10:49 PM

do you thinking buying a new model in its first year is a good idea, though?

06-03-2010, 08:38 PM	#91
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	sorry, further investigation reveals that i was talking out my ass. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=172 it's a federal requirement apparently. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

06-03-2010, 08:40 PM	#92
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I bet the tire manufacturers wanted it taken off. too bad, so sad! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

06-09-2010, 03:19 PM	#93
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	How do you compare/evaluate engines? I get 4/6/8 cylinders; but what about capacity in liters? Is an engine with a bigger capacity always more powerful? And there seems to be lots of other fancy terms I don't understand. I feel like I'm comparing apples to oranges. I don't want a car with a wimpy little engine. I'd rather get one with a medium powered engine that will get me up my hill and not fade on me as time goes on. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

06-09-2010, 03:52 PM	#95
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Thanks, glatt, I will look at those numbers. But I don't understand exactly what torque is. "Torque" to me means twisted--but what does it mean for an engine? Of course I will be eventually driving the cars I'm interested in, and I understand that is a good way to evaluate the engines in a practical way (as long as it's a proper test drive and not around the block), __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

06-09-2010, 04:02 PM	#96
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Torque is what produces the seat of the pants feeling of acceleration. Horsepower measurements are taken at the maximum the engine will produce and usually it's produced at higher engine RPM than you will ever see in normal driving, which makes it kind of a useless measurement for anything but racing and bragging rights. Torque is what you feel. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-09-2010, 03:32 PM	#94
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Better to compare what the engine does than how big it is. What is the horsepower? What is the torque? How fast does it accelerate? What is the MPG? Those numbers will tell you how powerful and efficient the engine is. There are all sorts of tricks to get power out of an engine, and engine size is only one of them. An important one, but not the only one. Better still is to drive the damn thing and see if it's good enough for you.

06-10-2010, 05:26 PM	#97
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	Trading an '07 HHR LT with 38k on it for $8500 right now. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

06-10-2010, 05:36 PM	#98
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	ooh! (makes frustrated face) __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

06-10-2010, 05:49 PM	#99
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	oops! they had to bump it up to $9000... made a mistake on the rebate amount. d'oh! __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

06-10-2010, 05:55 PM	#100
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	[joepescivoice]They fuck you on the trade-in![/joepescivoice]

06-10-2010, 07:54 PM	#101
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Only buy a VW if the engine is in the back, a 4 banger, and aircooled. The rest of them suck.

06-11-2010, 08:52 PM	#102
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I don't think my car aesthetic filter is the same as everyone else's. I like the Element, the HHR, I don' t mind the Rogue and Murano's "smile," and I think the Nissan Juke is really cool looking! It comes out in the fall and looks like a really neat car. http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai= but then, why be like everyone else? __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

06-11-2010, 09:10 PM	#103
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	I agree Cloud. And I also like the looks of the Juke, and cool that theyre offering a diesel. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

06-11-2010, 10:36 PM	#104
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	By all means, please yourself. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-11-2010, 10:49 PM	#105
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	do you thinking buying a new model in its first year is a good idea, though? __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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