Ray Stevens can kiss my ass!

Sheldonrs · 08-17-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

You do understand that Arpaio is only the county sherriff, right? He has no authority over any of the dozens of other LE organizations in AZ. Beyond that little detail you might want to remember that county deputies have been operating under these guidelines for quite awhile.

This isn't a 'get the beaner' law, it's a 'ICE doesn't do shit in phoenix so we'll ensure local LE are all on the same page as current federal law' law.

Sheriff Joe has a funny way of interpreting rules. Like refusing to send his officers into towns where the city boards don't let him in to randomly search local businesses for illegals, even when there is no evidence they are there.

lookout123 · 08-17-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

Sheriff Joe has a funny way of interpreting rules. Like refusing to send his officers into towns where the city boards don't let him in to randomly search local businesses for illegals, even when there is no evidence they are there.

Either you never leave Scottsdale or you are kidding. The town you are talking about is Guadalupe. They don't have their own police force and used to contract with the county for police services. Then they decided to start telling the Sherriff's office they only wanted some of the laws enforced. I can understand their request when you considering a very large portion of their town is illegal.

dmg1969 · 08-19-2010, 11:39 AM

I'd just like to ask Sheldon straight out...do you support the sovereignty of the U.S. and its right to enforce its borders? For the sake of argument, lets say that the feds pull over a van full of suspected illegals. Do THEY have the right to ask for ID? If so, what is the difference between locals and feds doing the same job? If not, WTF?

Sheldonrs · 08-20-2010, 04:22 PM

Here is my opinion:

I don't give a flying fuck how someone gets into this country. If they work and pay taxes, they can be emigres from Hell for all I care.

One world; one people.

Flint · 08-20-2010, 04:43 PM

Oh, so you oppose ANY kind of immigration law, including the FEDERAL immigration laws which ALREADY EXIST. So, I assume you are writing congress to get those FEDERAL immigration laws taken off the books, right? Because they are racist, and blah blah blah, whatever... right?

Certainly you're not thinking that Arizona passing an identical law would change the federal law that already exists, are you? That would mean that you know nothing about this subject and have done nothing to try to understand it. That can't be the case, can it?

Poor Mr. Stevens, dying in a fire over a simple misunderstanding.

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