Impeding changes to our Health Care system

[Happy Monkey]

Lifetime limits are what has been eliminated (my latest benefits newsletter confirms this).

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by classicman

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention. Just to be clear, I have ZERO interest in ANY interaction with Redux. Z.E.R.O. none nada zilch. He is dead to me.

Zero substantive interaction perhaps. You seem to resent any suggestion to have zero actual interaction.

[classicman]

Correct, I believe... I know they are no longer written into policies. I assume they are being eliminated from all preexisting ones as well. That is part of the reason that rates will increase. The insurance companies will be on the hook forever in certain circumstances.
The companies are tryin instead to limit what they can pay on specific things instead. Theoretically there is no "Lifetime Maximum." BUT they are attempting to skirt the issue by writing limits into policies in other ways. Some of these are eliminating limiting certain procedures, treatments and/or medical supplies/items.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Zero substantive interaction perhaps. You seem to resent any suggestion to have zero actual interaction.

I will not engage him. I have made that clear, but if he is going to, I will respond. Which part of that are you not grasping. You're a bright guy, its not that complicated.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by classicman

The companies are tryin instead to limit what they can pay on specific things instead. Theoretically there is no "Lifetime Maximum." BUT they are attempting to skirt the issue by writing limits into policies in other ways. Some of these are eliminating limiting certain procedures, treatments and/or medical supplies/items.

That's why we can never let up and just let them do what they want.

Actually, it's why we should go to single payer, but in lieu of that it is why they should be heavily regulated.

[classicman]

Single payer is the only answer with everything covered forever and everyone paying in forever. Severe regulation adds inherent costs that will offset any savings. The more bureaucratic this becomes, the more it will cost.

ETA - Dumping an additional 30million people onto an already taxed system with the prior planning, training, staff and facilities is going to be very bad - for how long is the only unknown.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

Single payer is the only answer with everything covered forever and everyone paying in forever.

Thank you for being honest enough to admit the over riding Socialist agenda of the liberal progressive left demoncrats. You are the first to at least stand up and state the obvious.

[classicman]

I believe many wanted that - IIRC the R's prevented that from happening.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Anyone who understands what's wrong with our medical system, realizes single payer is the only practical solution. No system is perfect, but there are plenty of examples around the world showing that single payer works the best for 99% of the citizens.

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Anyone who understands what's wrong with our medical system, realizes single payer is the only practical solution. No system is perfect, but there are plenty of examples around the world showing that single payer works the best for 99% of the citizens.

In the long term, I agree.

But in practical terms, with 200 million people in employer-based health care, you cant get there from here overnight....without massive disruptions.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

In the long term, I agree.

But in practical terms, with 200 million people in employer-based health care, you cant get there from here overnight....without massive disruptions.

Fuck that, that is not what the Demoncrats or Obama or that bitch Pelosi promised the electorate.

Now you want to modify the pain. Ha. See you in Nov.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by classicman

Single payer is the only answer with everything covered forever and everyone paying in forever. Severe regulation adds inherent costs that will offset any savings. The more bureaucratic this becomes, the more it will cost.

Another point for single payer. But we can't have that, so we're stuck with the insurance companies. And we can't let them do whatever they want just because it would be expensive to police them.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

How to respond to "baiting" in the Cellar:
1) ignore
2) respond with childish remarks about blowjobs.
3) respond with humor
4) edit the posts of others

1) ______________
2) Go get a BJ - I hear they are cheap in Ohio.
3)see #2
4)see all of above

Really? Someone throws a stone at you, and you throw a stone at someone who is not even a bystander - someone who is at home minding their own business? Really?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Fuck that, that is not what the Demoncrats or Obama or that bitch Pelosi promised the electorate.

republican talking points.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Another point for single payer. But we can't have that, so we're stuck with the insurance companies.

Which I've already said was my preferred option

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

And we can't let them do whatever they want just because it would be expensive to police them.

NEVER did I say anything of the sort.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Really? Someone throws a stone at you, and you throw a stone at someone who is not even a bystander - someone who is at home minding their own business? Really?

So you decide to get into a pissing match that I wanted no part of to begin with. So you are interjecting your 2 cents for what purpose? Really?
For the record - I threw a stone right back at the asshole and his yapdogs, you included. Let it fuckin' die.