Cloud's car stuff - Page 22

Pico and ME · 10-29-2010, 10:40 PM

LOL. I wonder why I did that.

Oh I see, you are right under his post.

tw · 10-30-2010, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhelm

No vision obstruction....in fact it may improve it by shading that back glass a bit.

So that is the spoiler for this car?

Never Mind.

jimhelm · 10-30-2010, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw

So that is the spoiler for this car?

Never Mind.

you were picturing one of those silly wing things?

monster · 10-30-2010, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw

So that is the spoiler for this car?

Never Mind.

So you had no idea what you were banging on about? Well what a shock that is.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-30-2010, 04:57 PM

Why buy one, when they are so easy to fabricate.

monster · 10-30-2010, 07:00 PM

excellent. I'mm'a have hector make one for my Windstar (which is bright red with chrome flames in the front wings

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tw · 10-30-2010, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhelm

you were picturing one of those silly wing things?

If it does not look like that, then is it even a spoiler? I am repeatedly amazed how many think that thing on the trunk (and what appears to be another spoiler below it) is 'cool'.

At one point, I could not find any decent car with a stick that did not have some stupid spoiler on the trunk. Some salesmen trying to tell me it was cool. Maybe if I was so dumb as to be told what to believe.

Some 'wings' in that location were designed to channel air across the rear window. To clear road dirt and maintain visibility. And did not cost $400. Have not seen those for at least a decade.

Saw same thing on some mid-1990 Honda Civics. But never heard anyone call that a spoiler. Never knew that thing on a Juke also was a 'spoiler'. Reminds me of fins on 1957 Plymouths and Chevys. Well those owners got their fins for free.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-31-2010, 01:20 AM

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Some 'wings' in that location were designed to channel air across the rear window. To clear road dirt and maintain visibility. And did not cost $400. Have not seen those for at least a decade.

They used to be pretty popular on station wagons, where the rear window gets filthy. They even incorporated them into the roof rack sometimes.

ZenGum · 10-31-2010, 01:59 AM

Wait a minute - that kludged spoiler. Isn't that a nissan maxima? UT did you pimp out the cellar car?

Undertoad · 10-31-2010, 10:08 AM

Nevar!!!

What we found is that some rear bike racks don't work if there's a spoiler on the trunk, making the Cellar Car the car of choice for that work.

Also the Cellar Car was recently above 100 MPH for the first time, possibly in its life. It was brief, just to see how it would fare. The rear tyres did not lose traction. But IMO tw is right and an upgraded suspension would be a better bet than a spoiler, 100% of the time.

But the Juke spoiler is not a spoiler, but just the usual ~~Nissan~~ car makers trick of putting everything into a Premium package so the dealers can order 19 cars with the Premium package and one for the cheap-ass buyers who tenaciously refuse such items.

Cloud · 11-11-2010, 04:02 PM

still waiting for my car. In the meantime, however, I invite your comments on the best kind of oil to use.

I hear people arguing passionately about the "dino v. synthetic" issue. I'm a bit confused, but seems to me after some cursory research that dino is okay for the first couple of years, then switching to synthetic may be better later. Keep in mind that the car I'm planning on buying is a turbo.

glatt · 11-12-2010, 07:36 AM

I swear by 710 fluid.

tw · 11-14-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

still waiting for my car. In the meantime, however, I invite your comments on the best kind of oil to use.

The difference is that conventional oil feature larger molecules. These were especially important because poorly machined engines contained lots of debris and blowby materials. Synthetic was only used in, for example, jet engines where the oil was not contaminated by burned fuel.

Larger oil molecules made the debris less destructive.

Machining to tenths of thousands of inches and other innovations made synthetics more practical. Oil that was once so fully contaminated in 4000 miles (or 500 miles in the 1950s) is now cleaner even after 8000 miles. So the advantage of larger molecules is no longer as significant.

jimhelm · 03-29-2011, 08:14 AM

did you ever get your Juke, Cloud?

I got one yesterday, but I forgot about the spoiler, and of course, the SL I took does not have it. I walked past an SV in bright blue this morning that had it, and was reminded how much better it looks with it. meh.. I still like it a lot.

Cloud · 03-29-2011, 08:50 AM

no, the too-long wait and the numerous reported problems gave me cold feet. I finally got a RAV4 (reported in a separate thread).

Still talk to the Juke people. They have CEL problems, bad fit-and-finish squeaking problems, weird engine problems too. But they all say it's fun to drive!

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10-31-2010, 01:59 AM	#324
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Wait a minute - that kludged spoiler. Isn't that a nissan maxima? UT did you pimp out the cellar car? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-11-2010, 04:02 PM	#326
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	Which kind of oil? still waiting for my car. In the meantime, however, I invite your comments on the best kind of oil to use. I hear people arguing passionately about the "dino v. synthetic" issue. I'm a bit confused, but seems to me after some cursory research that dino is okay for the first couple of years, then switching to synthetic may be better later. Keep in mind that the car I'm planning on buying is a turbo. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

03-29-2011, 08:14 AM	#329
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	did you ever get your Juke, Cloud? I got one yesterday, but I forgot about the spoiler, and of course, the SL I took does not have it. I walked past an SV in bright blue this morning that had it, and was reminded how much better it looks with it. meh.. I still like it a lot. Attached Images __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

10-29-2010, 10:40 PM	#316
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	LOL. I wonder why I did that. Oh I see, you are right under his post.

10-31-2010, 10:08 AM	#325
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Nevar!!! What we found is that some rear bike racks don't work if there's a spoiler on the trunk, making the Cellar Car the car of choice for that work. Also the Cellar Car was recently above 100 MPH for the first time, possibly in its life. It was brief, just to see how it would fare. The rear tyres did not lose traction. But IMO tw is right and an upgraded suspension would be a better bet than a spoiler, 100% of the time. But the Juke spoiler is not a spoiler, but just the usual ~~Nissan~~ car makers trick of putting everything into a Premium package so the dealers can order 19 cars with the Premium package and one for the cheap-ass buyers who tenaciously refuse such items.

11-12-2010, 07:36 AM	#327
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I swear by 710 fluid.

03-29-2011, 08:50 AM	#330
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	no, the too-long wait and the numerous reported problems gave me cold feet. I finally got a RAV4 (reported in a separate thread). Still talk to the Juke people. They have CEL problems, bad fit-and-finish squeaking problems, weird engine problems too. But they all say it's fun to drive! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

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