$75 for a 14 hour day?

Shawnee123 · 03-16-2011, 12:48 PM

Funny how no one bitched about unions when GM was paying 70 bucks an hour for guys to play cards, which brought down more than one city into poverty through its own damn fault, but it's all the rage to carp on public employees. Why is it so "cool" to badger public employees, do you think? Buncha bandwagoners. Oh yeah, and 'cause of the pubes.

BTW, (and no I'm not in a union) our pres said in his Town Hall meeting that PA got totally blindsided by the cuts (he was speaking of education cuts but I'm sure more than that were blindsided.)

yeah, this goes prolly in another thread but I'm hoping the sniffing rat-sheep bandwagon-jumping morons don't find it here.

Bullitt · 03-16-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

yeah, this goes prolly in another thread but I'm hoping the sniffing rat-sheep bandwagon-jumping morons don't find it here.

They will.

Shawnee123 · 03-16-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt

They will.

Yeah, I know. But I know Sam won't mind.

Expecting it in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Trilby · 03-16-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Funny how no one bitched about unions when GM was paying 70 bucks an hour for guys to play cards

Play cards and worse. When GM employees would show up drunk/high to work, management would send them to medical where they could sleep it off and STILL collect their hourly wage. We had a broom-sweeper (she swept the floors) who made 90,000 the year I was there (1999). GM killed its own damn self. (and yeah, if an employee got a speeding ticket in the town where the plant was located? The union would get it dismissed for them...great use of union time/money, huh? Those guys not only got a hand-holding, they got their balls stroked for 70 bux an hour. And most of them were on vicodin, too - at company expense. Carpal tunnel, you know.)

Now. How can I possibly afford my dream home on 75$/day? It's listed as 299,000 - but i betcha they'll come down a few thou.

Shawnee123 · 03-16-2011, 02:07 PM

yeah, I've been neglecting bringing it up...but one of my dad's buddies told him that they'd often spend the afternoon in the bar. Mornings were coffee, newspaper, sometimes cards if a machine "broke down." My dad liked the guy, but that shit pissed him right off. That isn't the only horse's mouth story I've heard.

I've argued before that the Japs have it right: the area (and there are a few in Ohio) Honda plants pay a decent wage, and the folks have to work for it. They are sustaining. People are making a living wage. There have been NO layoffs in all this time. They plan. They use their freaking heads. Do their employees have 3 motorcycles and an RV bigger than most people's homes? Maybe not, but they're damn happy to be there.

No one dared bitch about the auto unions. Those guys were too big and tough. But the bitch at the DMV who's making 30 grand a year putting up with the public's bellyaching bullshit? She's fair game.

You know what's happened to the economy here, Bri. You're right, the biggest cause, the big ripple...all come from the same place. The model was not sustainable.

And Sam I am so so so sorry for the threadjack.

Spexxvet · 03-16-2011, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I've argued before that the Japs have it right: the area (and there are a few in Ohio) Honda plants pay a decent wage, and the folks have to work for it. They are sustaining. People are making a living wage. There have been NO layoffs in all this time. They plan. They use their freaking heads.

Unfortunately, American executives only think about this quarter's stock price and how they can put more cash in their own pocketses. Sometimes putting more cash in there own pocketses means suck union balls.

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Do their employees have 3 motorcycles

No, they have one scooter.

Shawnee123 · 03-16-2011, 03:10 PM

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No, they have one scooter.

And a damn nice camera.

SamIam · 03-16-2011, 03:42 PM

Ahem, getting back to the OP for a moment.

I liked glatt's advise, also. One of my major problem is that I don't want to add to Carmen's worries when she's going through such a bad time. That's why I'm thinking of negotiating directly with Bill who is currently basking on the beach somewhere in California. So, if I tell him I want minimum wage and his response is to fire me, that would be illegal, right? I want to talk with Bill at the very last minute (he's due back next week), so he won't have the chance to train someone else in my place. If Judy and I split the time equally, we'll each work 48 hours/week. For that miserable sum? Hopefully, Bill will listen to the voice of reason without enacting reprisals against anyone.

And Shawn, you're just a natural at threadjacking!

03-16-2011, 12:48 PM	#1
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Funny how no one bitched about unions when GM was paying 70 bucks an hour for guys to play cards, which brought down more than one city into poverty through its own damn fault, but it's all the rage to carp on public employees. Why is it so "cool" to badger public employees, do you think? Buncha bandwagoners. Oh yeah, and 'cause of the pubes. BTW, (and no I'm not in a union) our pres said in his Town Hall meeting that PA got totally blindsided by the cuts (he was speaking of education cuts but I'm sure more than that were blindsided.) yeah, this goes prolly in another thread but I'm hoping the sniffing rat-sheep bandwagon-jumping morons don't find it here. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-16-2011, 02:07 PM	#5
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	yeah, I've been neglecting bringing it up...but one of my dad's buddies told him that they'd often spend the afternoon in the bar. Mornings were coffee, newspaper, sometimes cards if a machine "broke down." My dad liked the guy, but that shit pissed him right off. That isn't the only horse's mouth story I've heard. I've argued before that the Japs have it right: the area (and there are a few in Ohio) Honda plants pay a decent wage, and the folks have to work for it. They are sustaining. People are making a living wage. There have been NO layoffs in all this time. They plan. They use their freaking heads. Do their employees have 3 motorcycles and an RV bigger than most people's homes? Maybe not, but they're damn happy to be there. No one dared bitch about the auto unions. Those guys were too big and tough. But the bitch at the DMV who's making 30 grand a year putting up with the public's bellyaching bullshit? She's fair game. You know what's happened to the economy here, Bri. You're right, the biggest cause, the big ripple...all come from the same place. The model was not sustainable. And Sam I am so so so sorry for the threadjack. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-16-2011, 03:42 PM	#8
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Ahem, getting back to the OP for a moment. I liked glatt's advise, also. One of my major problem is that I don't want to add to Carmen's worries when she's going through such a bad time. That's why I'm thinking of negotiating directly with Bill who is currently basking on the beach somewhere in California. So, if I tell him I want minimum wage and his response is to fire me, that would be illegal, right? I want to talk with Bill at the very last minute (he's due back next week), so he won't have the chance to train someone else in my place. If Judy and I split the time equally, we'll each work 48 hours/week. For that miserable sum? Hopefully, Bill will listen to the voice of reason without enacting reprisals against anyone. And Shawn, you're just a natural at threadjacking!

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