Credit? Forget it.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-01-2004, 08:07 PM

Use cash and don't leave a trail. Because the FBI is watching everything. How could your expenitures be misconstrued? Easy, put your receipts together and think of the wildest tale you can to explain them. Don't you think a person that has to justify their job by finding suspicious spending could do the same? Be afraid, be very afraid. Oh, where in hell is my tinfoil hat.

Dr. Zaius · 01-01-2004, 09:43 PM

Oz never did give anything to the Tin Man, that he didn't....didn't already have.

deepandchilled03 · 01-02-2004, 07:49 AM

Sick

slang · 01-02-2004, 08:00 AM

Sometimes the lack of a paper trail can be nearly as suspicious.

Kitsune · 01-02-2004, 09:11 AM

Soon it won't matter how you pay -- RFIDs are on the way! And when they are in my clothing, I will putting everything I wear in the microwave for 2 seconds after I purchase them. Zap.

richlevy · 01-03-2004, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Use cash and don't leave a trail. Because the FBI is watching everything. How could your expenitures be misconstrued? Easy, put your receipts together and think of the wildest tale you can to explain them. Don't you think a person that has to justify their job by finding suspicious spending could do the same? Be afraid, be very afraid. Oh, where in hell is my tinfoil hat.

The awful part is the lack of judicial oversight and the fact that they do not even have to give Congress a total of the number of times the act was used. This places all power in the Executive branch, which is insanely dangerous as well as violating the spirit of the Constitution.

My guess is that if this makes it up to the Supreme Court it will be defeated 6-3 or better.

Of course, in order to challenge the law you have to know you have been subjected to it to gain standing in the court. Since everything is anonymous, this will be difficult. This will all come to a head when someone violates the gag order and goes public.

It's amazing that the White House has become so aggressive in breaking the Fourth Amendment while hiding behind a wall of secrecy and executive privilige built to pre-Nixon levels.

It might take another public abuse of the system, like Nixon's, to bring it back under reign. What really pisses me off is the Republicans in Congress deferring so much of their power and responsibility to the President. Is party unity so much more important than duty?

Kitsune · 01-04-2004, 09:59 AM

Just witnessed a short segment on MSNBC concerning the removal of privacy when it comes to citizens -- the worry, here, is that terrorists are assuming the identities of US citizens so that they will be overlooked in security scans.

...or, at least, that is what they are telling us. They're also using this reason for the recent cancellations and delays in BA flights across the Atlantic which is not the same reason some UK sources are citing.

wolf · 01-04-2004, 11:18 PM

It's gotten so a girl can't go to the Walmart in the dead of night just to pick up some rope, contractor bags, bleach, a pair of work gloves, a shovel, a set of dark clothes, and a box of shotgun shells without somebody getting into her business.

(oh and bruce, in case you can't find your old one, here's the instructions. And there's a new book too.)

Beestie · 01-05-2004, 03:32 PM

It just seems to me that when law-abiding citizens start to fear the government, something is very wrong.

And the irony of this is nearly unbearable. The FBI knew the hijackers were all taking flight lessons here in the US. A lardass FBI supervisor squelched the investigation. So, because of the FBI's ineptitude, 9/11 happened. NOW, the FBI is claiming to need expanded powers to prevent the next 9/11. So the FBI, in essence, uses its OWN buffoonery as an excuse to get MORE power to enable it to be even MORE incompetent. God help us.

The founding fathers must surely be clawing and scratching at their coffin lids at the constitution shredding that is going on right now.

Any law enforcement officer cop that claims the Constitution is giving the terrorists an unfair advantage should be looked at with the utmost suspicion.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-05-2004, 07:47 PM

Thank's Wolf. I made mine with ear flaps. Damn, I didn't need hearing aids after all.

russotto · 01-07-2004, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf
It's gotten so a girl can't go to the Walmart in the dead of night just to pick up some rope, contractor bags, bleach, a pair of work gloves, a shovel, a set of dark clothes, and a box of shotgun shells without somebody getting into her business.

Try KMart. The fact that they use the mentally retarded as cashiers has its advantages.

Oh, yeah, and that's _two identical sets_ of dark clothes and work gloves, right?

warch · 01-07-2004, 04:55 PM

Strange bus stop ad campaign in big letters:

"You can be afraid or you can be prepared" On stark white background- courtesy of some unrecognized homelandish project.gov

Personally,I think you can be both, neither, or just sort of wary and aware.

Kitsune · 01-07-2004, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by warch
Strange bus stop ad campaign in big letters:

"You can be afraid or you can be prepared" On stark white background- courtesy of some unrecognized homelandish project.gov

Personally,I think you can be both, neither, or just sort of wary and aware.

What about falsely prepared and purposefully distracted?

OnyxCougar · 01-07-2004, 08:07 PM

You know, ignorance is truly bliss. Now I'm truly getting scared of my own government. Might be time to move back home to England.

elSicomoro · 01-07-2004, 09:36 PM

But would it be any better over there?

01-01-2004, 08:07 PM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Credit? Forget it. Use cash and don't leave a trail. Because the FBI is watching everything. How could your expenitures be misconstrued? Easy, put your receipts together and think of the wildest tale you can to explain them. Don't you think a person that has to justify their job by finding suspicious spending could do the same? Be afraid, be very afraid. Oh, where in hell is my tinfoil hat.

01-02-2004, 07:49 AM	#3
deepandchilled03 Maximum Reflection Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA (Say No to the Iraq War) Posts: 25	Sick __________________ Deep and Chilled

01-04-2004, 11:18 PM	#8
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	It's gotten so a girl can't go to the Walmart in the dead of night just to pick up some rope, contractor bags, bleach, a pair of work gloves, a shovel, a set of dark clothes, and a box of shotgun shells without somebody getting into her business. (oh and bruce, in case you can't find your old one, here's the instructions. And there's a new book too.) __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

01-05-2004, 03:32 PM	#9
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	It just seems to me that when law-abiding citizens start to fear the government, something is very wrong. And the irony of this is nearly unbearable. The FBI knew the hijackers were all taking flight lessons here in the US. A lardass FBI supervisor squelched the investigation. So, because of the FBI's ineptitude, 9/11 happened. NOW, the FBI is claiming to need expanded powers to prevent the next 9/11. So the FBI, in essence, uses its OWN buffoonery as an excuse to get MORE power to enable it to be even MORE incompetent. God help us. The founding fathers must surely be clawing and scratching at their coffin lids at the constitution shredding that is going on right now. Any law enforcement officer cop that claims the Constitution is giving the terrorists an unfair advantage should be looked at with the utmost suspicion. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

01-01-2004, 09:43 PM	#2
Dr. Zaius Superior Inhabitant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ape City Posts: 73	Oz never did give anything to the Tin Man, that he didn't....didn't already have.

01-02-2004, 08:00 AM	#4
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	Sometimes the lack of a paper trail can be nearly as suspicious.

01-02-2004, 09:11 AM	#5
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Soon it won't matter how you pay -- RFIDs are on the way! And when they are in my clothing, I will putting everything I wear in the microwave for 2 seconds after I purchase them. Zap.

01-04-2004, 09:59 AM	#7
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Just witnessed a short segment on MSNBC concerning the removal of privacy when it comes to citizens -- the worry, here, is that terrorists are assuming the identities of US citizens so that they will be overlooked in security scans. ...or, at least, that is what they are telling us. They're also using this reason for the recent cancellations and delays in BA flights across the Atlantic which is not the same reason some UK sources are citing.

01-05-2004, 07:47 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Thank's Wolf. I made mine with ear flaps. Damn, I didn't need hearing aids after all.

01-07-2004, 04:55 PM	#12
warch lurkin old school Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,796	Strange bus stop ad campaign in big letters: "You can be afraid or you can be prepared" On stark white background- courtesy of some unrecognized homelandish project.gov Personally,I think you can be both, neither, or just sort of wary and aware.

01-07-2004, 08:07 PM	#14
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	You know, ignorance is truly bliss. Now I'm truly getting scared of my own government. Might be time to move back home to England.

01-07-2004, 09:36 PM	#15
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	But would it be any better over there?

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