WTF's up with the U.S. prison system??

[plthijinx]

actually, on my way to the walls, i saw a black beat the living shit out of another black for being disrespectful to a chick at a rest stop/break for the guards. dude screamed out the window "hey ho! sho me yo pussay!" other dude said "you better check yo self cuz i will if you won't" they argued for 2 hours. all the way to darrington. then nigga #1 proceeded to beat the living hell out of nigga #2. not 5 feet away from me in the cage.

btw: for those not in the know, nigga is ok. nigga = dude in 85 speak.

[footfootfoot]

Imma guess 85 speak relates to IQ

I know what you're saying, plt, Just razzing you.

[FishHook004]

In my experience... the t.v. or a pack of cigs were to blame on most of the riff Raff haha

[plthijinx]

lol 3foot! you got that right!

fish - yep. but we needed the guards to bring in the smokes!

[Griff]

In Pennsyltucky we saw how efficiently the private prisons work.

The "Kids for cash" scandal unfolded in 2008 over judicial kickbacks at the Luzerne County Court of Common Pleas in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. Two judges, President Judge Mark Ciavarella and Senior Judge Michael Conahan, were accused of accepting money from the co-owner and builder of two private, for-profit juvenile facilities, in return for contracting with the facilities and imposing harsh sentences on juveniles brought before their courts in order to ensure that the detention centers would be utilized.[1][2] Ciavarella and Conahan pleaded guilty on February 13, 2009, pursuant to a plea agreement, to federal charges of honest services fraud and conspiracy to defraud the United States (failing to report income to the Internal Revenue Service, known as tax evasion) in connection with receiving $2.6 million in payments from managers at PA Child Care in Pittston Township and its sister company Western PA Child Care in Butler County.[3][4] The plea agreement was later voided by a federal judge, who was dissatisfied with the post-plea conduct of the defendants, and the two judges charged subsequently withdrew their guilty pleas, raising the possibility of a criminal trial.[5]

A federal grand jury in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania returned a 48 count indictment[6] against Ciavarella and Conahan including racketeering, fraud, money laundering, extortion, bribery and federal tax violations on September 9, 2009.[7][8]

Following the original plea agreement, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ordered an investigation of the cases handled by the judges and following its outcome overturned several hundred convictions of youths in Luzerne County.[9] The Juvenile Law Center filed a class action lawsuit against the judges and numerous other parties, and the state legislature created a commission to investigate the wide-ranging juvenile justice problems in the county.[10][11] (See: JLC's growing list of related Court Documents[12])

[morethanpretty]

What Griff said, our judicial system has enough issues as it is. Once you turn it profitable? So much more incentives to keep people in or send people to jail. Cut costs in any way to increase profit, ect. Human rights? Not where there is a profit to be made! I think FH's and plt's conversation goes a long way to show that our current system does not work. How many inmates get out of prison with no-to little valuables, no-to little work skill, and nowhere to live? Much less a means of getting a job. Getting hired as an ex-con? Maybe, but its not gonna pay as well as crime probably will. These are issues that need to be addressed. 1) We need to reduce the number of people going into prisons by getting rid of the 3strikes rule (I think its been shown not to be effective anyway), and decriminalizing marijuana. Increasing funding for education and after school programs (especially in poorer areas), increase access to birth control and sex education hopefully decreasing teenage and unplanned pregnancies by people who are not prepared for children.
2) Turn the prison system into more of a rehabilitation system rather than a punishment system. I think our recidivism rates show that punishment is not working.
3) Improve re-entry programs for cons returning to the world so its not such a huge shock to them, they have support, and also so that better tabs can be kept on them.

Those are just some of my humble ideas at least.

Oh, but none of the rehabilitation stuff goes for rapists...punish them, punish them for forever by hitting them with big dildos and hanging them upside down for hours at a time, don't let them eat anything but dog shit and chocolate ex-lax!

Uhm....sorry.

[Trilby]

Re: private prison systems - Kaisich wants to privatize five of our prisons. Sounds like a fooking nightmare. Kaisich is gonna be a one term gov. for Ohio. People really HATE him.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by morethanpretty

Oh, but none of the rehabilitation stuff goes for rapists...punish them, punish them for forever by hitting them with big dildos and hanging them upside down for hours at a time, don't let them eat anything but dog shit and chocolate ex-lax!

This is a touchy subject but I've read that rehabilitation for rapists could be one of the most effective. Rape is inherently sexist and can only happens from someone that has no respect for that woman and her choices. And, I don't remember the exact number, like 85%+ of convicted rapists in this study have never had a strong woman figure in their life (dad beat their mom, mom left them, died, etc) so they never viewed women as people you respect. So the theory was that if you introduced a strong respectable woman figure in these men's life, they would learn to at least respect one woman and the chances of them repeating the crime would drastically decrease. I think the results were mostly positive but I haven't been able to find the study again.

Although in general, in order for rehabilitation to be effective, it would need to attack the root causes of the crime. This means individual attention from some specialist, which can be extremely expensive and non-standardized. I would like to the see this eventually implemented but I don't see it happening.

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by Brianna

Re: private prison systems - Kaisich wants to privatize five of our prisons. Sounds like a fooking nightmare. Kaisich is gonna be a one term gov. for Ohio. People really HATE him.

I can't believe he got voted in, though I blame the people who went nutty to make sure they got the votes out for Obama at election time then sat on their laurels thinking this one would just land in their laps.

ALL ELECTIONS MATTER, PEOPLE.

Because, look what good stuff privatized for-profit schools are doing.