Hand wringing about Jill leaving. - Page 4

DanaC · 05-08-2011, 11:08 AM

Twat.

footfootfoot · 05-08-2011, 11:09 AM

Can a person be "thread banned" or "subforum banned" for not playing nicely? That might allow a person to remain is the cellar at large but unable to post vitriol in the politics thread. Maybe that would allow those of us who are able to debate respectfully a chance to once more participate in politics thread.

DanaC · 05-08-2011, 11:11 AM

red and yellow cards! That's what we need.

And a 'sin bin'

Nirvana · 05-08-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Can a person be "thread banned" or "subforum banned" for not playing nicely? That might allow a person to remain is the cellar at large but unable to post vitriol in the politics thread. Maybe that would allow those of us who are able to debate respectfully a chance to once more participate in politics thread.

And this will work because the banned person cannot make a new thread in an unbanned part of the forum? I think when someone is being an ass we should just call them on it and only respond with the word twat to everything they post.

DanaC · 05-08-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana

And this will work because the banned person cannot make a new thread in an unbanned part of the forum? I think when someone is being an ass we should just call them on it and only respond with the word twat to everything they post.

This!

Griff · 05-08-2011, 11:20 AM

Good idea if possible.

Dear Flint,
Shut the fuck up. You are one moran whose opinion does not matter.
xoxoxo,
Griff

Flint · 05-08-2011, 11:28 AM

You're right, Griff. My opinion equally doesn't matter. Your opinion equally doesn't matter. Ideally, we should operate as adults making independant decisions, and taking personal responsibility. Pointing fingers, blaming others, making excuses, and tattle-taling: these are things that children get in trouble for. Adults have learned not to do these things. Let's be adults.

DanaC · 05-08-2011, 11:29 AM

There is no such thing as society.

Flint · 05-08-2011, 11:32 AM

Interesting idea. That right there is a thread starter in itself.

Griff · 05-08-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

You're right, Griff. My opinion equally doesn't matter. Your opinion equally doesn't matter. Ideally, we should operate as adults making independant decisions, and taking personal responsibility. Pointing fingers, blaming others, making excuses, and tattle-taling: these are things that children get in trouble for. Adults have learned not to do these things. Let's be adults.

blah blah fucking blah

DanaC · 05-08-2011, 11:40 AM

The Cellar is more than just a random collection of strangers. It is a community. We have, and continue to evolve accordingly. Unusually for an internet community we are very lightly moderated. Something I am very glad is the case. Because we do not have a clear ruleset and moderator enforcement, we self-manage as a community for the most part. Again, this is something I am glad of.

There is nothing wrong with (and I would argue that it is actually beneficial and possibly even necessary that we do) occasionally taking a step back and looking at what culture we have evolved into. Since we have few structural mechanisms of control, informal mechanisms would seem a logical alternative.

This whole thing started (I think) when I posted in the 'scorching your groove' thread about Jill leaving. And when I said in another thread that I was millimetres away from leaving myself. Not because Jill had left, but because of what I perceived as a recurring problem. Basically, I got a little glum at a particular aspect of Cellar culture and expressed my frustration.

Now, I could just shut the fuck up and never comment about this sort of thing again. But to do that I'd have to make myself care a little less.

I love the cellar. I'm very proud of it most of the time. I identify with it as part of who I am, it is a community I feel a part of. I absolutely reserve the right to give a shit about who and what we are.

Flint · 05-08-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

blah blah fucking blah

Yes! What I said is nonsense! That's the spirit!

footfootfoot · 05-08-2011, 11:49 AM

Who am I supposed to agree with?

DanaC · 05-08-2011, 11:50 AM

me!

Flint · 05-08-2011, 11:51 AM

Dana, I'm glad you care. Caring is the #1 ingredient that, if missing, is irreplacable. My personal take on whathever the "situation" is that we are fretting over is that I don't know what it is and I don't care what it is. I don't trouble myself over that kind of thing.

What I do know is that I randomly responded to a random post in a random thread, not knowing or caring what forum it was in or what the perceived problems were in that forum, and the next thing I know I've got a freaking strikeforce of enraged vigilantes coming at me with torches and pitchforks.

Let me say again: I do not give a shit about your petty squabbles and complaints about whatever forum you feel has whatever problem. I don't know about it, and I don't care about it.

But if you decide to target your righteous anger against ME, then I guarantee that you can FUCK. RIGHT. OFF.

05-08-2011, 11:09 AM	#47
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Can a person be "thread banned" or "subforum banned" for not playing nicely? That might allow a person to remain is the cellar at large but unable to post vitriol in the politics thread. Maybe that would allow those of us who are able to debate respectfully a chance to once more participate in politics thread. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-08-2011, 11:20 AM	#51
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Good idea if possible. Dear Flint, Shut the fuck up. You are one moran whose opinion does not matter. xoxoxo, Griff __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

05-08-2011, 11:28 AM	#52
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	You're right, Griff. My opinion equally doesn't matter. Your opinion equally doesn't matter. Ideally, we should operate as adults making independant decisions, and taking personal responsibility. Pointing fingers, blaming others, making excuses, and tattle-taling: these are things that children get in trouble for. Adults have learned not to do these things. Let's be adults. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

05-08-2011, 11:32 AM	#54
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Interesting idea. That right there is a thread starter in itself. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

05-08-2011, 11:49 AM	#58
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Who am I supposed to agree with? __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-08-2011, 11:51 AM	#60
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Dana, I'm glad you care. Caring is the #1 ingredient that, if missing, is irreplacable. My personal take on whathever the "situation" is that we are fretting over is that I don't know what it is and I don't care what it is. I don't trouble myself over that kind of thing. What I do know is that I randomly responded to a random post in a random thread, not knowing or caring what forum it was in or what the perceived problems were in that forum, and the next thing I know I've got a freaking strikeforce of enraged vigilantes coming at me with torches and pitchforks. Let me say again: I do not give a shit about your petty squabbles and complaints about whatever forum you feel has whatever problem. I don't know about it, and I don't care about it. But if you decide to target your righteous anger against ME, then I guarantee that you can FUCK. RIGHT. OFF. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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