Florida Face Eater - Page 2

DanaC · 06-28-2012, 05:52 PM

hahahahah shit.

footfootfoot · 06-28-2012, 10:32 PM

A HA! Kismet! I found out why! I just watched this short Australian film and at exactly 2:00 she explains the reason! The whole film is only 3:53 and pretty funny in a dark way.

infinite monkey · 06-29-2012, 07:06 AM

That video is great!

classicman · 06-29-2012, 11:51 AM

DanaC · 06-29-2012, 01:13 PM

Excellent tubing Classic.

wolf · 06-30-2012, 11:54 AM

Oh, come on, people, when was the last time you saw a straight-up pothead do anything more violent than make a macrame wall hanging? Or develop elaborate plans for bettering the world that never get acted upon?

Crackheads, yeah. Junkies, rather less so. Meth-heads, absolutely. Bath salts, for sure. And don't forget our old friend, PCP.

Plain old weed, that's a de-initiator, not an initiator.

Cyber Wolf · 07-02-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Oh, come on, people, when was the last time you saw a straight-up pothead do anything more violent than make a macrame wall hanging? Or develop elaborate plans for bettering the world that never get acted upon?

Crackheads, yeah. Junkies, rather less so. Meth-heads, absolutely. Bath salts, for sure. And don't forget our old friend, PCP.

Plain old weed, that's a de-initiator, not an initiator.

I have, but no one would (want to) believe me.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-02-2012, 04:52 PM

I believe you, but I also believe it wasn't because of the pot.

Cyber Wolf · 07-03-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I believe you, but I also believe it wasn't because of the pot.

I don't think the pot helped the situation. Even if this guy was already wrong in the head without it, having that extra hallucinogen (possibly mixed with something else as yet undetected) would not have made things better. They clearly didn't here. I know some people can go right off the rails with nothing more than their own brain chemistry and a bad day, and those are the people who shouldn't have anything else of that kind in the system mucking things up.

The problem is, you don't know who those people are until it happens, in the same way you may not know you're allergic to shellfish until you're in the ER with swollen everything and EpiPens sticking out of your thighs.

xoxoxoBruce · 07-03-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

My friend was a careful user, very smart, studying bio, and still wound up addicted. But he may have been grounded enough and focused enough not to take so much he went over the line to that level.

Well shit, that doesn't sell newspapers... or help get drug war funding.

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Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf

I don't think the pot helped the situation. Even if this guy was already wrong in the head without it, having that extra hallucinogen (possibly mixed with something else as yet undetected) would not have made things better.

1-Pot shows up in drug tests weeks after it's had any effect.
2-Pot is not a hallucinogen.

ZenGum · 06-30-2012, 07:57 PM

Pardon me, but WTF is "bath salts" slang for? Speed?

Ibby · 06-30-2012, 08:15 PM

its synthetic, legal, designer speed basically, yeah.

Undertoad · 07-02-2012, 04:58 PM

I would believe that someone smoked and got violent. What I wouldn't believe was that the weed was the catalyst, as opposed to that person's personality, disordered or not, and their capacity to become violent in the first place.

Which is kind of the lesson learned in the face eating case. Our narrative is to say "some drug made him do that", partly because we don't want to believe that naturally-occurring mental illness can make someone do that. We want to believe that all people act according to their choices, and that bad choices lead to bad behavior, as opposed to the other way around.

eta: ok that was what xob sed in 13 words

Ibby · 07-02-2012, 05:14 PM

but on the other hand, ut, shit like meth and bath salts can induce actual psychotic episodes. sure, someone who's just plain old gentle and meek, going psychotic, will probably not be extremely violent, but they can be. I'd say a guy who'd eat somebody's face would have to be pretty fucking messed up without drugs, but i would certainly think they'd be a fairly possible, if not outright likely, factor.

Undertoad · 07-02-2012, 05:28 PM

Yabbut on the list of 100 bad things weed can do to you, sudden violence is... not on the list.

I knew a pre-med guy who did meth in an attempt to get a 4.0 in college. He put in twice the study of his fellow students, and got close to his 4.0. But he got zero recommendations from professors - and thus, did not get into med school. Instead he went to rehab. He was otherwise a pretty good guy! I guess my point is, even with meth, which turns many people psychotic, personality makes a difference.

06-28-2012, 10:32 PM	#2
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06-30-2012, 11:54 AM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Oh, come on, people, when was the last time you saw a straight-up pothead do anything more violent than make a macrame wall hanging? Or develop elaborate plans for bettering the world that never get acted upon? Crackheads, yeah. Junkies, rather less so. Meth-heads, absolutely. Bath salts, for sure. And don't forget our old friend, PCP. Plain old weed, that's a de-initiator, not an initiator. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-02-2012, 04:52 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I believe you, but I also believe it wasn't because of the pot. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

06-30-2012, 07:57 PM	#11
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Pardon me, but WTF is "bath salts" slang for? Speed? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

06-29-2012, 07:06 AM	#3
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	That video is great!

06-30-2012, 08:15 PM	#12
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	its synthetic, legal, designer speed basically, yeah. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

07-02-2012, 04:58 PM	#13
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I would believe that someone smoked and got violent. What I wouldn't believe was that the weed was the catalyst, as opposed to that person's personality, disordered or not, and their capacity to become violent in the first place. Which is kind of the lesson learned in the face eating case. Our narrative is to say "some drug made him do that", partly because we don't want to believe that naturally-occurring mental illness can make someone do that. We want to believe that all people act according to their choices, and that bad choices lead to bad behavior, as opposed to the other way around. eta: ok that was what xob sed in 13 words

07-02-2012, 05:14 PM	#14
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	but on the other hand, ut, shit like meth and bath salts can induce actual psychotic episodes. sure, someone who's just plain old gentle and meek, going psychotic, will probably not be extremely violent, but they can be. I'd say a guy who'd eat somebody's face would have to be pretty fucking messed up without drugs, but i would certainly think they'd be a fairly possible, if not outright likely, factor. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

07-02-2012, 05:28 PM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Yabbut on the list of 100 bad things weed can do to you, sudden violence is... not on the list. I knew a pre-med guy who did meth in an attempt to get a 4.0 in college. He put in twice the study of his fellow students, and got close to his 4.0. But he got zero recommendations from professors - and thus, did not get into med school. Instead he went to rehab. He was otherwise a pretty good guy! I guess my point is, even with meth, which turns many people psychotic, personality makes a difference.

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